So what?

Who has the majority? who won the most parliamentary seats in the national elections? Who participated in the elections in the regions they thought they could win, and boycotted and protested the other regions as unbalanced?

Who decided that the perfect time to demonstrate and thank Syria (for what, again?) was at the moment when the eyes of the world were on the winds of change that were sweeping through Lebanon, the moment when the Lebanese united and screamed a loud and resounding "NO!" to tutelage and terror?

Let's put it this way. These protests are wrong for the simple reason that there is no reason to protest. Being the opposition is not reason enough for mass protests. Not having the power to bring down the government constitutionally is not a reason either.

It's being a sore loser, that's all.

I will not address Hizbullah. I think you are terrorists. Theocrazies, led by a rabid Irani lapdog who couldn't care less for his country. A guy who, since he's a cleric, can't be touched, but who wants to play at politics. No, I won't address you.

I will not address Aoun either. A megalomaniac has-been who thinks he's god's gift to freedom. He burned his political credit by showing his true colors, to my own personal chagrin. He lost my respect by refusing to say that he made a mistake choosing his allies. He made me regret every tear I shed for him when I was younger. A has-been, and a hack. No, not worth talking to.

Berri, nah. Frangieh? Foul-mouthed, inbred, illiterate opportunist? Nope. Well, at least these guys stayed their course, I'll give them that.

I want to talk to you. The Lebanese.

Let's make it clear, honest, and cut the politically-correct crap. I want to talk to the Aounees. The Christians that make this political standoff what it is. Without you, this would be a country united against a crazed organization. Without you, this would be a democracy being reborn, and rooting out the last bastion of lawlessness.

Please, look around you. Look around you campsite. Who do you see? Do you see Gebran Toueni, who bled his pen, week after week, defending your beloved commander-in-exile? Do you see your fellow Lebanese who were beaten during protests, thrown in Jails and sent to Syria? Do you see the students from every other political party who were also abused in those protests? Is MTV filming you? Is the station that was SHUT DOWN because of it's unwavering support on your side anymore? No. No. No. You are alone. You are swimming against the current (lol). You are standing side by side with the criminals that brought war to the country this summer. The criminals who gave the Syrian tutelage legitimacy. The criminals who would burn the country if their masters told them to.

And why? Because your master told you to? Because he wants a piece of the pie?

Do you hear his language? He speaks of imperialism and Zionism. He speaks of the French, the American, the European and the 'Zionist' tentacles spread into the core of our country.

That guy lived in FRANCE for over a decade! He claimed that his efforts in the US was what led the UN to announce the UNSC 1559 resolution! Why is he now against this? What other reason could there be? The pie. It's all about the pie!

Blink. Your eyes must be watering.

You see your jailer there, next to you, don't you? You see everyone who ever insulted you, huh? You see the people who supported the same dictator that you fought against.

Please open your eyes.


At Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:46:00 PM, Blogger Firas said...

wow... prepare for the swarm Ramz.

At Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:09:00 PM, Blogger hashem said...

This is the type of language we need the least these days.
The stupid arrogant language despising everybody else who don't agree with you, making them criminals, betrayers, or simply blind-followers, while the masses in ur side are clever and freedom-lovers....
Because of people like you, on both sides, the country is facing such a crisis.
Tell me now....u looked and saw the criminals and warlords on one side, while the others are angels, and honest leaders?
Just look closer, and see who on ur side....talking on ur behalf....and acting as if they never fought and killed records of Lebanese...
From Gea'ga3 to Jumblatt, to Gemayyel etc etc...
Those are the democracy-builders? Those are the type of learders Lebanon is proud to have?
You think you are the one who decides for people when to protest and when not?
Bringing down Karami's government on the streets (or so it was portrayed while it's clear the decision was taken on foreign embassies by decision-makers somewhere else) was a big democratic acheivement, but trying to do the same now (maybe supported by other "former"/terrorist? decision-makers) is a precedent and an act of war and chaos....
Do u think we are stupid?
Do you think we as Lebanese decide anything in our country's future and fate?
Another thing, it's so pathetic to consider people brave and patriotic when they agree with you, and blind when they disagree with you?
Last thing....talking about Zionists now is considered a bad language?
If Aoun lived in a country, he should embrace that country's political side no matter what?
plz open YOUR eyes.....

At Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:43:00 PM, Blogger Rampurple said...

Ramz 100% with you.

I can bet, tomorrow at this time, this post will contain more than 30 comments of people calling each other traitors.

Hold your breath

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:09:00 AM, Blogger Chief said...

We need more posts like this. And don't worry about the comments.. they'll just prove your point.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:24:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...


At Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:28:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...

But I must add that I'm equally disgusted by people who stand by the Jumblatts and the Geageas.

What our country needs is less idolatry, personality-cults, dynasties, patriarchy and more real democratic, real personal initiative.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:03:00 AM, Blogger Ramz said...

firas, ram, chief... swarms and hordes don't scare me :)

callipyge: I'm personally against idolatry as well. People are fickle, and it's simply naive to follow one. Which is generally, a main flaw of 'politics' in Lebanon. Politicians are people, and open to whims and fancies. In a normal world, if a politician changes his view, he changes to a different party. Over here, the party changes its view according to its Leader.

That said, when politicians admit that they made mistakes, and try to make amends, when they risk their lives for their patriotic values, one can't oppose them with the same fervor.

Forgive and forget, they say. It's not easy, but people are trying, and that has to be applauded.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 5:43:00 AM, Blogger lebanese_student said...


At Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:27:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...

Sure... but I thought the smart thing to do was to forgive and not forget..
forgiving is an opening and an expansion of the heart, it's a form of growth.
forgetting, especially when it comes to politics, could fail to prevent history from repeating itself..

I might piss some peeps off by saying this, but say Sharon came back to consciousness briefly and said he was sorry for all the harm he inflicted and meant it. Some strong people could forgive the man, the human, but how could anyone forget everything the soldier/politician did? It's disrespectful to the people he's wronged.

Why do people put memorials up everywhere? So that they won't forget.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:42:00 AM, Blogger Mirvat said...

i agree with hashem

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:21:00 AM, Blogger imad said...

me too, but it seems they choose to ignore those who disagree with them. so why bother.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:22:00 PM, Blogger MarxistFromLebanon said...

talking about democracy...

So, what to do with all those in the streets? Just dump them in the sea? I see both camps reactionary and sectarian...and sectarian is the word mate. This language is the same as your opposing camp, non-progressive, subjective, and reactionary to the other.

A person can tell you that Olmert yesterday issued a statement that Seniora government needs to be supported internationally... and heck a whole chain of accusations would flow by. Problem is no one is listening to the other and has an SRC problem (Self-Reference Criteria). Remember, couple of years ago the allies of both camps were accusing each other as traitors, suddenly when they ally their supporters follow and ally.

Like I said earlier, no logos are progressive as long as sectarianism is camping (heck now they are competing who is more Muslim or more Christian these days and only the supporters listen to it).

I would simply say: Viva 11th March :)


At Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post Ramz.
I think it is only fair though to say, that yes, both camps have flaws. Everyone made mistakes at some point in time during the war. But given the current circumstances, and given the flow of events over the last few years, it is CLEAR that March 14 seems more like a logical, and yes more patriotic choice than whoever is on the other side. And yes, I shed tears when Aoun was dethroned in 1990, but I cannot care less anymore. for all the obvious arguments that you have used.

At Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:11:00 PM, Blogger Rabie_Halad said...

In 1982 many pro-iranian groups formed upon the poor souther lebanon filled with shiias, to fight the israeli occupation. in 1985 hezballah emerged as an umbrella orgnisation of these group.

The biggest military actions hezbllah undertook since then was the 22 year isrei occupation of south lebanon, therefore Hezbollah is a ntional liberation movement rather than an Islamist or terroist organisation.

The biggest 'terrorist' attack blamed on hezballah is the killing of 241 US Occupation groups in lebanon in 83, even this was a clear attack on a military target not civilian. Hezballah however denies responsibility for this.

You accuse Hezballah of wantingto set up an islamic state in Lebanon, where shiias account for 40% sunnis 30% christians 30% , this is due to the media identifying hezb with iran.

The groups which formed hezballah were influenced by irans february 79 revolution and it has strong links to iran and shiia groups in iraq, hezballah's evolution shows a strong relationship to the lebanese reality in which it operates

In its founding statement it includes 'an open letter to all the opressed in lebanon and the world' Its aims were to drive the US, French, and Isralie occupiers out of Lebanon, to defeat the right-wing meronite christian phlange party, which dominated Lebanon and collaborated with the occupiers, and 'to permit our people to choose in all the liberty the form of government they desire'

While hezbollah ' calls upon all of them to pick the option of islamic government' nevertheless it said 'WE DONT WANT TO IMPOSE ISLAM UPON ANYBODY. WE DONT WANT ISLAM TO REIGN IN LEBANON by force as is the case WITH THE MARONITES TODAY.' It tells christians not to be 'deceived and misled into believe that we anticipate vengeance against you. For those of youwho are peaceful continue to live in our midst without any body even thinking to trouble you.'

There is little evidence that hezbollah has ever attacked christians for being christian. The main 'christian' force it fought was the South Lebanon Army(SLA), which was a puppet force of the israli occupation.

In fact some of Hezbollahs earliest clashes were with Haraket amal, due to hezbollah's opposition to amal's brutal attacks on palestinian regugee camps. Palestinians are mainly SUNNI AND CHRISTIAN. Hezbollah's actions cut across the sectarian division on which lebanon's 'confessional' system of government is based.

While Hezbollah's ideology fits into the category of 'Islamist', and appeals to islam formed a core part of its strategy to mobilise against the isaeli occupation, the term 'fundamentalism' usually refers to attempts to focibly impose reactionary restrictions on the way people live, dress and so on. Yet the groups foudning statement states whoever wants to defeat the 'arrogant supepower' --the us -- 'cannot indulge in marginal acts, such as 'to dynamite bars, and destroy slot machines'

In the south there are far more woman covered in vils in pro-western jordan than in hezbollah controlled south beirut, where women are also more visible in the streets in general. This reflects the higher socio-economic level of lebanon.

Hezbollah is far from being only a military organisation. It also runs a wide network of SOCIAL SERVICES, schools, and health centres, which service the poor generally, not only shiias.

Hezbollah's accordance with Lebanese realities and avoidance of the sectrian and 'fundamentelist' extremes of some forms of 'political islam' enabled it to become the leading force in the resistance to israli occupation. but for this it has been accused of being anti-jewish and of wanting to 'destroy israel' once lebanon is liberated

Hezballah was accused of bombing a jewish community center in argentina in 94, but denies this, there is much scepticism about this charge, due to the incompetence of the official investigation, during which no proper atupsies or dna tests were done. a number of factors point to the involvement of argentina's military in the attack.

For all the terrorism accusation the only concrete fact is that hezballah has in the past fired katyusha rockets into israel, some of which have killed civilians. however, this was part of the war of liberation against israeli occupation, during which israel regularly responded its attacks on its military forces in lebanon, with MASSIVE ATTACKS on civilians. at such times, hezbollah fired back. ther was an enormous difference between the small numbers hit by hez and the huge by israel, as the past war, less than 20 israli civilians were killed compared to 1000 lebanese. it is certainly debatble whether firing back into israel achieves anything militarily that can make up for the boosting of support within israel for the war when even a few civilians are killed. however firing back when under massive attack is normal in war and can hardly be called TERRORISM.

Hezbollah is a nationalist, not a socialist, organisation, and socialists have many differences with Hezbollah’s ideology and many of its tactics. However, recognising that it is a national liberation movement rather than a “fundamentalist” or “terrorist” organisation is important in understanding the kinds of allies that are necessary in national struggle. Moreover, it is not necessary to romanticise Hezbollah in order to recognise that its actual political evolution and many of its tactical decisions make it a far better vehicle for the national struggle than many other organisations in the region with roots in “political Islam”, such as al Qaeda.

At Monday, December 04, 2006 5:54:00 AM, Blogger laila said...

very sad.

At Monday, December 04, 2006 11:13:00 AM, Blogger Suha said...

Rabie, facts don't matter. The drums of war are calling and few are the ones who will not take sides.

Marxist is right: Hizballah are not going to diappear and neither are their supporters and allies. You have to accept and respect that. Otherwise, might as well kiss the whole thing goodbye.

I am entertaining a shimmer of hope that this demonstration will go out of hand and will start demanding real change. That it will turn into a demonstration of 2, 3, even 4 million. But it won't. It will be the same old rotten bigotry. No Palestinians, no " fifth column", no mu'amarah to blame. We do it to ourselves time and time again.

Good night and good luck.

At Monday, December 04, 2006 7:39:00 PM, Blogger La La said...

Ramzi you rule. I couldn't agree with you more. I do see however that some people haven't woken up to see through all the bullshit. So sad.

At Monday, December 11, 2006 11:48:00 PM, Blogger Leafless Eve said...

I'de like to join your forum, but i don't want to create a Yahoo ID (it'll just be one more email i don't use and one more password i'll forget)

So i'd rather not go thru all that, unless i REALLY have to

so let me know :)


At Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:32:00 PM, Blogger Leafless Eve said...

Great post...
Ya Hisham, no one is portraying 14th of March as angels... But they are BUILDERS and the others are DESTROYERS.
It's SO EASY to send 17 year old brainwashed kids into the streets, or into a war. It's NOT EASY to raise them as decent human beings and educated them till they are actually a force to be reckoned with. A MIND FORCE, not a militia.
THIS IS HOW U WIN. You become AS POWERFUL AS THE ISREALIS NOT BY OWNING A STUPID NUKE. Political power and pressure comes from something BIGGER then that. Learn from the Israelis. Creating a militia in your own govt. only WEAKENS it and makes it a target to those who want to destroy it (ya3ni Syria & Isreal)
If i have to choose between Syria The US to rule me, i would chose the US anytime over Syria & Iran. (and i'm more then half Syrian)

At Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:36:00 PM, Blogger Leafless Eve said...

Suha, sho 3 or 4 million?
That's the entire Lebanese population...lol

R u planning to bring all of Syria to this demo?

ba3dain who said Hizballa has to disappear? They are a part of Lebanon, but that doesn't mean that they should be in COMPLETE power either.


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