Lots of Iranians, Syrians and Palestinians, and about 200 Lebanese
There are two shining spots in our otherwise gloomy history:
posted by J. @ 8:53 PM
22.9.06
There are two shining spots in our otherwise gloomy history:
Disclaimer: Posts and Comments expressed at LBF do not always reflect the opinions of all its contributors.
If you are a Lebanese Blogger, click below to join LebaneseBloggers:
Kindly provide us with a link to your Lebanese blog to ensure the approval of your request. Thank you.
Contributors' Blogs
- Bob
- Eve
- Firas
- Ramzi
- Liminal
- Ramz
- arch.memory
- Ahmad
- Delirious
- Sassine
- Lazarus
- Charles Malek
- Assaad
- Nobilis Tobilis
- Jamal
- Al-Fil
- Mustapha
- Carine
- ATC
- Zimplistic
- Fadi
- MMMMMMMMM
- Failasoof
- Laila
- Fouad
- pot.of.tea
Blog Lists
If you are a Lebanese Blogger, click below to join LebaneseBloggers:
Kindly provide us with a link to your Lebanese blog to ensure the approval of your request. Thank you.
(more to come, watch this space)
Previous Posts
- 3 Presidents / الأراجوز
- Borders
- And We Have a Dozen!
- Hezbollah defensive strategy!
- توضيح من زياد رحباني
- The Empire's mice
- Blogger Meeting #12
- PC World's 25 Worst Web Sites
- Are we still fighting?
- "Being a Shiite now", in English
Other Interest Blogs
- Make Money Online
- Demagogue
- Rittenhouse Review
- Toothing
- Awryt
- Second String Swap
- Investment Banking Monkey
- Just Another Opinion Blog
- Bashhh
- TRR Blog
- Bloombox Reviews
- Hairstyles and Nails
- Health Talk and You
- Paquet Full of Glass
- Olympics Page
- The Chess Haven
- Saints Car Club
- Pilgrim's Products
- link
- link
- Hurdler Page
- Film Acting
- Moon Rider
- link
- Golden Girls Quotes
- Jeffrey Scott Band
- Redhead Hair Site
- Oregon Lawyers
- Survey Land
- Johnny Bravo Site
- Super Pong
- Jake Gyllenhaal Fan Club
- A&F Models
- link
- link
- link
- Integrity Library
- Internet Data
- Fusion Recipes
- Dancer's Domain
- Soda Traders
- Rent Empress
- Myanmar Institute of Technology
43 Comments:
What about 1990, 2005 ?
I would like to ask the administrators of this blog (whoever they are) to more actively monitor some of the pro-Israeli comments that appear here. There is a fine line between "freedom of speech" and pornography. I know these comments usually have a certain comic value (see above), but still. Consider it like taking out the garbage. Every household should do it from time to time.
jij
Deleting a comment just because you don’t agree with it is a sure way for a blog to go out of my Windows Explorer Favorites list.
Peace dude.
Mr smith, those were not comments. Those were allegations that Israel could wipe out an entire nation and get away with it. That would be disturbing wishful thinking actually.
The admins are free to moderate the comments the way they like and you are free to maintain your Favourites list the way like
we bitkhaffef!
To jooj
"Those were allegations that Israel could wipe out an entire nation and get away with it"
Where is it on juila's comment?
Julia:
No one is denying Israel military supremacy. It’s exactly the military might of Israel that makes the Lebanese resistance and the outcome of this war more spectacular. Fact: Hezbollah is still here. Fact: Lebanese people survived and are going back to life.
We, Lebanese, whether Hezbollah partisans or not, consider this as a victorious outcome of the war. You are free on the other hand (democracy, you see, we are "learning"!), you are free to attribute these to the Lebanese resistance or to the Israeli incompetence. We will celebrate both (as the good neighbors that we are).
Your whole discussion is very adolescent-like “look at my daddy, he’s big and has a big car”. Ok, grow up and try to move into adult life. You have to understand that to survive in a region where you are a complete minority, you have to learn some basics ( as in common sense 101). Learn that you don’t deal with opposition by serial killings and abduction of deputees and ministers. You don’t deal with fear by shelling and killing civilians. You don’t retaliate to soldiers’ abduction by promising to turn the clock back on a whole country. Let "Bibi" use all his charisma, and all his savagery. Just as in this blog, in the Middle East, you are outnumbered sweetie. Better learn some manners.
And was that a threat of annihilation there? Do I hear anti-arab sentiment? Are you a young burgeoning racist? Or are you just trying to imitate Ahmadinejad? How pathetic.
The real victory from this war is that the Lebanese realized how much more human they are. How more tolerant of everyone else they are. And if resistance is relative, humanity shouldn’t be. And humanity, my friend, you lack.
what maya said.
Maya@Nyc for president!
Juila,
I would love to see the Israeli government, in its new shape and leaders, venturing once more into the Lebanese South.
And if you persist on assassinating any Lebanese civilian, if we ever meet, I would personally take your head off, no orders needed.
I think you should deal with your internal issues first (sexual harassment,etc) before you come knocking on our doors again..And we will be waiting, stronger and more determined to make you eat your words..
Jij,
I, as an administrator, hear you! Don't worry.
maldoror ya3tik alf 3afiyeh habibi ;)
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Juila
Oh you’re entertaining.
First, I obviously owe you an apology. I called you Julia. I see it’s a Juila… as in juif-là? As in chui-la? As in identity crisis?
We obviously (we as in Arabs) will be waiting impatiently for the day where FINALLY, Israel will get tired of some Arab leaders BS. Why is Israel being so patient by the way?? I mean, some Palestinians are still alive!!
And Juila has heard of Stockholm Syndrome!!! One of the many syndromes you hope to spread into Arab populations, so that they worship that same hand that hits them; but so far you have failed to achieve that even in Jordan and Egypt. Israel and Turkey are not at war??? How magnanimous of Israel.
As for using history to prove your point, make sure your weapon doesn’t backfire. You have been occupying land since huh….48… you have been killing arabs since…huh…. 48…. You have been kidnapping not soldiers but civilians, politicians under the umbrella of terrorism since ….huh….yes .. 48… you have been feeding dissent and wars namely in Lebanon…. and you have gone unchecked for so many years. Don’t you believe in that old saying: eye for an eye? Now, this should be amended. Because you have been using 1000 pairs of eyes for 3 soldiers. Fair is fair.
We will take your input into our relationship with Syria into consideration.Tonight, we will all ask ourselves about Syria. Although I try not to, I will think about Assad Junior before going to sleep. I will beg the angels to send me an answer. And if they don’t, I will sleep anyway.
As for calling the current state of Israel a democracy, I think Plato is tossing and turning in his grave. He is not thinking about Syria, oh no….he is appalled by the “new democracy” that you claim. Where arabs are second rate citizens. A democracy that defines itself by its religion? Even the Vatican has a better democracy. And just how much provocation does this modern democracy take? Is it in kilograms? Or liters? How do you measure provocation? A bad hair day…would that be enough for Olmert to be provoked? And next time you think Iran and Syria are provoking you: 2 approaches: seek professional help, because these are symptoms of your paranoia, and second: attack them, instead of bullying the weaker country. Deal?
When you admit to keeping the Shebaa Farms, then you are implicitly justifying the role and the existence of Hezbollah (am not, you are!)
Interesting that insight into your politics: The first hours after the kidnappings israel had hezbollah's leadership tracked by communications olmert refused to pull the trigger and by thursday they had disappeared.
So basically, Olmert chose to bomb the airport, start destroying bridges and ruining infrastructure and ecosystem instead of going against “his” enemies. Very interesting. Was Olmert using Hezbollah as a reason to destroy Lebanon? Was that the plan from the beginning? To destroy our ecology?our tourism?our future? our past? To shower our land with cluster bomb? Can I have your signature at the bottom of this confession please? And someone call Annan…we have an insider’s admission of guilt. Because you do feel guilty, right??? Admitting to all those hideous crimes (our shores, our fish, our children, our land, our harvest, our tourism) must be very difficult for you. We admire your courage for publicly admitting your guilt.
Hezbollah used screwdrivers in their bombs?? That explains it…I have been looking for that screw driver for so long now. So instead of screwdrivers what did you send? Chemicals? Phosphorus? You let the wild evil imagination run, eh!?
Return to basics: resistance: an underground organization of a conquered or nearly conquered country engaging in sabotage and secret operations against occupation forces and collaborators.
by definition, underground….bunkers and all....
Nearly conquered country….return the Shebaa farms please…
Sabotage and secret operations….. you name it….
and you are threatening us and the world of another Pearl Harbor? Coooooooooool….
(Go to sleep Juila… may you dream of Assad Junior since you seem to be so obsessed with him).
(Juila was threatenening us of another Hiroshima... the mistake is all mine...bad bad arab!)
maya for president 3anjadd!
maldoror.. shway shway aw baleha eh jood :)
JiJ,
In ten days we, the jews will have (maybe mark, but certainly not celebrate) the holyday of yom kipur (used to call "the judjment day" on other than hebrew languages). Before that day, jews ask for forgivness from all the people that they have harmed (it doesn't metter if they are jews or not, and all those stories about "gentiles" are bullshit and false translations from hebrew used for cheap propoganda). Now, after my people have killed so much of yours civilians, I know that I am obliged to beg you (not jij - the lebanese) for forgivness, but it is hard to not use the word BUT (no,no hiding between civilians shit, just 9:30 12 july shelling north Israel + killing + capturing).
So, please forgive jme for:
(+) Not voting for a wise leader, a one who would uproot the reasons for HA legitimacy, rather than bomb everything.
(+) For sitting with my mouth open, from shock, watching so many people die, and not doing a thing to make it stop.
(+) For justifing the deeds of Israel, for the sole (and blind) reason that my country is at war and I am obliged to stand by it.
P.S. I don't write it to jij but to all the lebanese.
andrey you've always been very kind, tried to be moderate and open minded and you always think about a solution for a real just peace.. we all do what we can but some things are bigger than us. this one lebanese has nothing on you but i really appreciate the gesture. happy yom kippur :)
mirvat
yom kipur isn't happy, it's actualy a very "gray" day :)
one last comment (i know i have harassed this site enough for the day)....
our area will only prosper because of its people: moderate open minded people, like you Andrey and like many many others on both sides of the "wall"...
for our part of the world to prosper we need to be strong enough to give. give (back) land, give freedom, give the right to life. give Peace. the real peace.
Dear Juila,
I want to watch your newly born baby being torn to pieces in front of your helpless eyes by a very "inaccurate" katiusha missile.
Then, I will start talking about long and durable PEACE with you and your people. Maybe then you will be more human.
P.S: I have nothing to do with H.A, I am just a normal Lebanese citizen who despises you!
P.S: Sorry, I couldn't put it in a more civilised manner :))
After "what is occupation" and the rest, here comes Julia....yalla...they became creative in the names!
To whoever is posting under the name Julia, if Israel was in a position to wipe all this rally out, why did it stop short?
maybe because you respect civilian lives? no...the past month proved this is not the case.
The fact that you didn't acheive any objective in this war is so clear, and alot of those who attended the rally are celebrating this. At what expense, what is next in Lebanon, and other arguments are pure internal issues, and you have nothing to do with.
SAD BUT TRUE...EVERYTHING that anybody said here...
BOTH PARTIES CLAIMING VICTORY?!!!
IT's ALL RELATIVE...
With DEATh and DEStruction....WE all LOSE...
Hizbulla won military because military objectives of israel were not achieved...but lost politically since he always refused that lebanese army be sent to the south yet now he had to accept....
Maya, Maldoror, Rabie
God Bless you
Julia
find something useful to do instead of wasting our time with (we could have dont this & that), well if you could have done this & that, why were your soldiers crying out of the battle field
maybe you should consider focusing on your soldier's instead of harassing each other at the parliament
sc,
Let's all behave like grownups shall we?
This is out of control. What happened to the original topic. Maybe you should change the topic anyway. I'm dismayed how the original subject was hijacked by an israeli racist.
Chas,
No there isn't. And in a democratic country there shouldn't be a single leader. Lebanon is not a dictatorship.
when I see this flood of pro-Israeli comments, I remember that Olmert announced putting Nasrallah underground is a victory. Where is Olmert now?
Now, I now the reason of this flood.
;)
No Hilal, the real reason for this flood of pro-Israeli comments is that the war is over so Olmert has more free time on his hands. At night his main hobby is to post comments on Lebanese blogs using several nicknames.
Hi everybody ,
The discussion went too far away from the original topic.
The meaning of the topic was that most of those who took part in the "victory parade" weren't Lebanese !
Also there was no war between Israel and Lebanon . There was a military conflict between Hizballa and Israel , which was mainly at Lebanese soil.
Lebanon lost anyway , but it wasn't a part of the conflict.
My statement is a simple one : the same forces who were opposed to the Cedar Revolution - the same forces celebrated the "victory".
I guess the fall of Homeinist Iran is close , so after it Syria will follow and Lebanese govt. will be able to deal with Hizballa. Patience for now.
Unfortunately the last conflict turned to be our failure , for which Olmert , Peretz and Halutz will have to resign soon. But from here there is no room to predict the "end of the Zionist entity". We only need to learn from mistakes.
About the present situation in Lebanon - OK , it is weak now , but the supreme Israeli interest is to help it become stronger and to stop acting as a playground for the world Jihad .
"Were there a majority of foreginers or Lebanese in the demonstration?"
"The meaning of the topic was that most of those who took part in the "victory parade" weren't Lebanese!"
La 7awla wa la kouwatta illa billah.
I am so sorry I posted this on this forum... It was my fault I should have known better
jij,
such posts are needed on this forum ... that badly-edited and ill-considered likud press briefings appear in response only confirm the necessity ...
Jij,
You've probably already addressed this, but the comments sickened me, so I didn't get your answer.
Was the title of your post meant to be ironic?
There is some dissonance between the title and the content.
Are you separating "the heroic resistance of the Lebanese people" from Hezbollah's armed muqawama?
Great pictures, though.
yes, malik, yes, meant to be ironic...
rabie_halad you are a mirror reflection of julia.
(When you support HA try not to mention march 2002)
So shmulik, you dare to bring up 1983, Lebanon. Didn't you know? Israeli intelligence already knew about attempts to bomb the USA Marines. The Israeli government, in its usual manner, didn't bother to warn the Marines their lives were in serious jeapardy. For all we know the Israelis may have planned that attack against the USA Marines - they've done stuff like this before - (does USS Liberty ring a bell?).
Why? Because the Marines were in their way. Just like Hezbollah is in their way. Israel had already bombed and massacred tens of thousands of civilians starting June 82 and polished off their murdering with the well-planned massacres of Shatila and Sabra in September 1982, killing over 3,000 women, children, and elderly.
Hezbollah is a thorn in Israel's side because Israel wants to occupy more precious land of Lebanon.
Israel is kind of like a leech. It needs to suck somebody's blood because it has no blood of its own.
Omar, you are a hateful little bugger, and you do your government proud. I'm sure they have a nice plush seat for you at the Knesset just waiting.
Israel would be damn stupid to use Nukes considering it would obliterate itself as well. Oh, gee, and there would go your little seat at the Knesset. You poor little thing, you.
Arabs can't fight in the open? And the IDF does? Oh yeah, sure. There's the IDF dropping hundreds of bombs daily from their WAR PLANES. Oh look, there's the IDF shelling round after round into homes, cars, businesses, streets, etc...from their TANKS. Oh, look, there's the IDF walking beside their tanks and armour trucks laughing, chomping on gum - knowing they're going to kill women and children - my its a holiday.
It was all on CNN. I didn't see the Israelis do anything heroic or courageous. Their weaponry and advance laser gadetry sings to the tune of billions of dollars from North America - on a yearly basis.
===============
"assaad just remember who has the nukes. Israel has over a thousand nukes."
This isn't a shock. WE KNOW AND WE ALWAYS HAVE. A bit stupid to be bragging about something like that, don't you think?
"There are nuclear submarines sitting right off of lebanon's coast."
Yeah, we know. Every now and then you guys like to machine gun the cars driving on the coast of Lebanon. Lot of Lebanese have been killed driving on the coast thanks to your war ships.
"We welcome an all out war so we can finally put you out of your misery."
Oh absoluLUTELY. You got that right! There's just one problem:
After you kill all of the Lebanese people and build your military posts and more "jewish" settlements on what was once Lebanon, your murdering and massacring won't stop,... will it.
Here's a gem of information you can take with you to sleep at night:
Hezbollah didn't start the war - Israel did.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Rhiannon,
“does USS Liberty ring a bell?”
I don’t know if 14 investigation committees can change your mind, but here goes…
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/liberty2.html
I think conspiracy theories web sites are not a good source of information.
Oh, and Elvis is dead.
“I didn't see the Israelis do anything heroic or courageous”
Once upon a time on a lazy Friday evening, a 32 years old man was sitting in his living room, watching television with his wife and playing with his kids. Suddenly the phone rang.
A recorded message was talking.
It was calling him to war.
He packed up a small bag, kissed his wife and two kids not knowing if he’ll ever see them again and left his home.
A few hours later, A few hundred kilometres to the north, he was marching to the battle field where rockets landed and exploded 100 meters from him.
He fought for about two weeks, that’s about 1,200,000 seconds he could have been killed.
Pretty courageous for a 32 years old atheist family guy, don’t you think???
That was ME during the war.
And YOU?
Posting comments on Lebanese blogs under anonymous identity...?
Please don’t lecture us about courage.
You keep answering with pat, cute little answers like "Elvis is dead" like so many other Zionists have stated on these blogs since July.
Do not tell me your story and cry me a river of your "so-called courage".
From where I sit, my mouse and keyboard have by far more dignity than your pathetic helmut and gun.
Palestinian Children throwing rocks at your tanks are by far more COURAGEOUS than you and your IDF "soldiers" could ever hope to be.
The anger of the Lebanese and Palestinian people and the reasons they fight Israel seem to always escape the soul-less mind of the Zionist/Israeli.
(There! Happy? I compromised).
Palestinians and Lebanese are fighting for their values, land, their way of life. Israel just wants more land that doesn't belong to IT.
I don't need to go into your propaganda files so that you can "educate" me to your way of thinking. I already know the way you "think".
Again, do not whine and moan to me about your ridiculous sob stories as the one above. You get no sympathy from me.
Instead, why don't you go and be courageous for a change. Go to South Lebanon and tell the people who lost homes, children, and businesses about your silly
war stories while you help them pick up all the Cluster bombs that your "brave" and "courageous" IDF pals left all over the South of Lebanon.
Go to the South of Lebanon and help rebuild the churches that the IDF looted, pissed and crapped in. They destroyed pictures of and broke statues Jesus Christ. They used some of these Churches for military bases.
Do that, and then maybe you can call yourself courageous.
Otherwise, in your own cute words:
"No soup for you."
“You keep answering with pat, cute little answers like "Elvis is dead" like so many other Zionists have stated on these blogs since July.”
Yes, we are funny people, aren’t we? All I meant was that conspiracy theories web sites are not a good source of information, that’s all. Sorry, all you Elvis fans out there...
Regarding the courage issue… Are you ready to get up from your keyboard right now and head out for the battle fields leaving your family and friends behind for an undetermined time with the possibility of never returning? You have seen war only with a bucket of popcorn in your lap. Believe me it takes a lot of courage (especially for an atheist like most of us Israelis).
”Palestinian Children throwing rocks at your tanks are by far more COURAGEOUS than you and your IDF "soldiers" could ever hope to be.”
You haven’t been there!
I served in the west bank and the Gaza strip for 2 years!
Most of the time it’s 18 years old Palestinians throwing big (VERY big) rocks on the heads of 18 years old soldiers with orders not to respond… It’s like you throwing stones on a lion behind bars in a zoo and claiming you are brave…
”Palestinians and Lebanese are fighting for their values, land, their way of life. Israel just wants more land that doesn't belong to IT.”
Israel doesn’t want Lebanese soil. This war was mainly about our right to live in north Israel without HA attacks every once in a few days for the last 6 years.
The Palestinian lands are disputed. We think it’s ours. They think it’s theirs.
”I already know the way you "think".
Good, you saved me a lot of typing ;-)
”Instead, why don't you go and be courageous for a change. Go to South Lebanon and tell the people who lost homes, children, and businesses…”
Many people and businesses In Israel have also been hurt by this war.
What can I say?
War sucks.
Don’t start one.
"No soup for you."
I like Jerry Seinfield too :-)
Peace
"Yes, we are funny people, aren’t we?"
No, not really.
Yeah, you guys are definitely Atheists. Unfortunately not the warm-hearted kind, because I know that Atheists can be decent people. You're just not one of them.
Your condescending analogies (the popcorn bit and the fact that I must leave my keyboard and mouse to go to war) are useless and quite lonely. They are not in company with perception and reason.
I do not have to get up and go anywhere to prove any points or speak the truth. So how very sorry of a "human" you must be that you did your "duty" as an IDF soldier and you didn't LEARN anything from the experience.
"Most of the time it’s 18 years old Palestinians throwing big (VERY big) rocks on the heads of 18 years old soldiers with orders not to respond… It’s like you throwing stones on a lion behind bars in a zoo and claiming you are brave…"
Now that is just lame. I don't believe you for one second.
http://www.halturnershow.com/LegacyOfArielSharon.html
Yeah, those IDF/IOF “soldiers” look mighty “heroic” and so “courageous”. I can see how they are suffering from the “wounds” of those BIG ROCKS. THOSE VERY BIG ROCKS.
"Israel doesn’t want Lebanese soil."
Yes, it does. It wants the water and more soil. Israel is suffering because it doesn't have enough water. This isn't news. Can you explain to me why IDF soldiers were seen hauling rich Lebanese soil in bags into trucks, before they left Lebanon? Lebanese soldiers, civilians and UN workers were witness to this.
The Palestinian lands are disputed. We think it’s ours. They think it’s theirs.
You see, that's your whole problem: You may "think" it's yours, but the Palestinians KNOW it is theirs. There is no room for implying doubt.
What about the Land mines planted all over the Southern border of Lebanon. Scores of children, farmers, and others are killed every year because of Israel's cowardly tactics. Israel may get sore about "6 years", but Lebanon and Palestine have decades of unrest and trauma caused by Israel. What about missing children and people that are taken away by IDF soldiers ILLEGALLY in those "6 years" and all of the years before those "6 years"?
"Many people and businesses In Israel have also been hurt by this war.
What can I say?
War sucks.
Don’t start one."
Such dripping/drenching passive-aggressive remarks. Honestly, I think you should try out for the Zionist cheerleading squad and leave behind the nerdy Atheists. Doug Feith and Paul Wolfowitz wouldn't mind chipping in a few USA treasury bills for a cute little sweater for you.
"In other "news" the US itself (several times) has declared the attack on the Liberty to be an accident (In 1967 Israel was not a major ally of the US so there was no great reason for a cover-up) but off course YOU know better. It's very easy to throw accusations in the air but you don't have a shred of proof do you? I am sure you believe the mossad was responsible for 9/11 don't you?"
Yeah, I do. I think they were a part of it.
As for the USS Liberty:
A CALL FOR JUSTICE
http://www.ussliberty.org/findleybook.htm
Despite the awesome power of Israel's U.S. lobby, Liberty survivors have a voice in the House of Representatives, thanks to Democrat Cynthia McKinney, Georgia's first African American congresswoman. Long a supporter of civil and human rights, she was the only member of Congress to attend a massive rally held April 20, 2002, on Washington’s National Mall to express solidarity with the Palestinian people. Two months later, she introduced the following speech into the Congressional Record, a fitting testimonial to the determination of the Liberty crew:
"Mr. Speaker, I speak to commemorate and recognize the
tragic attack that took place against the USS Liberty
on June 8, 1967. Although thirty-five years have come
and gone since this historic event, the survivors of
the USS Liberty are still struggling with the fact that
their story has never been heard. While there has never
been an official investigation into this event, we have
learned from survivor accounts that for over seventy-
five minutes the Israeli defense forces attacked the
USS Liberty, killing 34 American soldiers and wounding
an additional 171. With over 85 percent of the crew
either dead or wounded, they somehow managed to keep
the ship afloat after being hit by over a thousand
rounds of rocket, cannon, machine gun, napalm hits,
and even a direct hit from a torpedo. This unprovoked
attack took place in international waters, and by a
trusted ally. The only explanation given to the survivors
and their families as to why this attack took place was
that it was an accident and that their ship was not
identified as being American, regardless of the fact
that our flag was proudly flown throughout the attack.
Unfortunately, that explanation is not good enough for
those whose lives have been impacted by this attack,
and it should not be good enough for the American people.
Let's not wait another thirty-five years before we
provide the survivors an official investigation into why
this attack took place and allow them to tell their story.
We owe them more than a debt of gratitude for their
sacrifice; we owe them the truth."
The navy's official Court of Inquiry was a sham. Both the admiral who headed the inquiry and his legal counsel knew it was phony. In retirement, U.S. Navy Captain Ward Boston, who served as court counsel, admitted that they privately disputed the court's official conclusion that the assault was a case of mistaken identity. Boston told a reporter for the NAVY TIMES that both he and Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd, who served as president of the court, privately agreed that the Israeli forces knew they were attacking a U.S. Navy ship. In explaining why he participated in the sham, Boston said, "In military life, you accept the fact that if you're told to shut up, you shut up. We did what we were told." Former CIA director Richard Helms said, "It was no accident."(55)
Photographic deceptions.
http://www.ussliberty.org/photofraud.htm
From one who was there.
http://www.ussliberty.org/moorer3.htm
Israel’s explanation that every vicious attack they commit on human life is always an accident and that they are sorry (shades of Qana). These pathetic apologies are wearing thin, to say the least, especially when all their massacres are pre-planned.
The Israelis claimed that the torpedo boats, after first sighting the ship, had called in the aircraft to attack after the ship refused to identify itself. This is an obvious lie, because the attack was clearly a pre-planned and well coordinated one-two punch employing different branches of the Israeli Defense Forces. The jets were already intent on attacking the ship before the Liberty came into the torpedo boats' radar range. Directly contradicting themselves, the Israelis later claimed that their aircraft had called in the torpedo boats.
http://www.ussliberty.org/ijic.htm
Did our government put Israel's interests ahead of our own? If so, why? Does our government continue to subordinate American interests to Israeli interests? These are important questions that should be investigated by an independent, fully empowered commission of the American government.
The American people deserve to know the truth about this attack. We must finally shed some light on one of the blackest pages in American naval history. It is a duty we owe not only to the brave men of the USS Liberty, but to every man and woman who is asked to wear the uniform of the United States.
http://www.ussliberty.org/moorer4.htm
Now why on Earth would you ever say that Israel was NOT an ally of the USA at that time??
Israel ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Of course a deadly one at that.
Post a Comment
<< Home