31.7.06

Qana Massacre # 2 video

44 Comments:

At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:07:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

It's really a shame what Hezballah has done.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:10:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

n1x..
rest a little.. i just posted it 8 minutes ago..

ps: IAF did it.
go show ur brain to a doctor ..

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:10:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

It's really a shame what Hezballah has done.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:12:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

Oh by the way, mainstream media news is no longer posting about your little city. They are showing how barbarians like arabs in gaza and beirut act. More good PR for hezballah :)

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:12:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

ps. u can do better than this..
so, stop repeating the same shit and copying-pasting ur comment.

it seems that u don't have this opportunity of freedom of speech in your media :)

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:14:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

It's really a shame what Hezballah has done.

What's sadder is I will repeat the same thing over and over and it angers you because your gig is up. :(

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:20:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

here's a breakdown of why you are an idiot
Hezballah cannot even compete with Israel in terms of military strength
Hezballah must gain PR from the rest of the world to fight a war like women.
Hezballah does not care about civilian lives both in Israel and Lebanon.
Hezballah knows that the Lebanese will support them while they use them to gain PR.
Hezballah does not realize Israel will destroy Lebanon in order to eliminate them
Hezballah has been defeated already and Lebanon is the scape goat for this.
Congratulations, keep up the strong Internet war on words, it's doing great for your country. Really.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:35:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

guys,
n1x won't sleep tonight..
he opens 24/24 7days a week
:)
add him to old "death to al" and "beeftsu"
:D

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:36:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

Who is guys? I run this blog in case you haven't realized it yet. Your little troops are afraid to even post in forums I am in. An entire blog of arab trash cannot take on a few jews, you wonder why you are losing the war? LOL

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:38:00 AM, Blogger jigna said...

Hilal give it a rest yourself, the whole world saw what I saw today, and as a Lebanese woman I am disgusted at Hezballah and the fact that they can brain wash people like you.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:40:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

So sad Hilal, even your own brothers and sisters think you are a fool.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:44:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

:)
أهلين
توفقنا فيكي والله

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:45:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

Who are you trying to impress? No one is even supporting you anymore. LOL

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 2:47:00 AM, Blogger peyotee2000 said...

Hilal it is thinking and views like yours that have caused all the destruciton. It is clear what needs to be done to stop this, and as someone who has been affected personally with family in Lebanon, hezbolloh must be done away with.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 3:22:00 AM, Blogger Solomon2 said...

the attack itself occurred near midnight, while reports of an explosion and the structure's collapse were only received at around 8:30 A.M.

Why did the building collapse?

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 4:53:00 AM, Blogger Akiva M said...

Hillal,

A few things to say. First and foremost, the deaths in Qana are a horror, a tragedy, and leave me heartsick. All of us need to forget for a second the "who's to blame" and "who's winning or losing" and just take a minute to recognize the enormity of the loss. Unless you can do that - and yes, n1x, I'm talking to you - your words are worthless, no matter haw true or false they are.

But after taking that moment, and thinking about what happened, I can say with absolute moral clarity and certainty that while an Israeli pilot fired the missile, it was Hezbollah who killed those people.

The IDF has released a video of Hezbollah firing rockets from that building before it was attacked. Now I ask you, was there any way for that pilot to know, when he fired the missile, that the building was sheltering civillians? Of course not; from several thousand feet up, all the pilot knew was he was hitting a building that rockets were fired from.

Contrast that with Hezbollah. Was there any way that they could *not* have known, when they chose that building as a platform to launch attacks, that there were civillians inside? Women and children? Of course not - they were there, on the ground, they knew exactly who was in that building. And was there any way that they could not have known that by choosing the building as a platform to launch attacks they were painting a bulls eye on it for the IDF? Again, of course not.

Hezbollah knew exactly what it was doing when it chose that building. I'll say it again - an Israeli missile hit the building, but Hezbollah killed the people inside.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 5:57:00 AM, Blogger peyotee2000 said...

Wow akiva, I respect your post. I am eager to see the bashing it leads to, because that will only further prove the ignorant minds of certain people.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:11:00 AM, Blogger Akiva M said...

Thanks peyotee. I've proposed a possible way forward on my blog - an outline of a peace plan I think may actually satisfy the needs of all parties - and your comments (and anyone from on here who is interested) would be much appreciated

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:22:00 AM, Blogger X21 said...

n1x

people in America, people like William Kristol, are saying you lost the war. Already. lol Not sure how you managed to do it with all the money and weapons we sent you. I guess you guys are a bunch of incompetents. By the way- you and the rest of your Megaphone lot a bit short on humanity too.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:25:00 AM, Blogger peyotee2000 said...

antonin you should really try to form your own opinions, and stop listening to what random people say. Last I checked Israel was hitting on the ground harder than ever. I don't see how the war we lost works, unless your lives mean nothing.

Akiva, also, has the video been put online?

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:40:00 AM, Blogger X21 said...

You're a pathetic supremacist peyotee. takes a lot of courage to run your mouth from behind a keyboard, but what has your vaunted army accomplished? A few weeks of insane violence, killing women and children from a thousand feet away, running with your tails between your legs from Bint Jbeil, and HA still stands and will stand when the dust settles, and you would know that if you had a brain. Take your hasbara elsewhere. No one is buying it, and a generation of Americans are turning against you. You'll lose your subsidies in 10-20 years, you can count on that. Nice going.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 7:01:00 AM, Blogger anti-smite said...

to n1x
I just took a big shit, and it reminded of a jew.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 7:02:00 AM, Blogger anti-smite said...

I would love to flush them all down the toilet.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 7:19:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

I have to admit we are nothing but cowardly shit heads. I am so miserable, I wish Hitler would have finished off my ancestors, so I would have not been born into this lousey state we call Israel.
We have all been brain washed in school to think that Jews could do no wrong, but after viewing the pictures in Qana, I hate what we have become.
We have become modern day Nazis.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 8:04:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

^^ looks like you guys are getting desperate to win this PR war. Way to fabricate things, just shows more hezballah work for you

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 8:08:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

antonin if we haven't accomplished anything, why cry?
It's war, get over it, civilians will be killed. You fire at ours, you're lucky Lebanon still exists. :)

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 8:09:00 AM, Blogger peyotee2000 said...

n1x said...
I have to admit we are nothing but cowardly shit heads. I am so miserable, I wish Hitler would have finished off my ancestors, so I would have not been born into this lousey state we call Israel.
We have all been brain washed in school to think that Jews could do no wrong, but after viewing the pictures in Qana, I hate what we have become.
We have become modern day Nazis.

Monday, July 31, 2006 7:19:09 AM

n1x said...
^^ looks like you guys are getting desperate to win this PR war. Way to fabricate things, just shows more hezballah work for you

Wow, and you guys wonder why no one believes the people in Lebanon. That is as bad as propaganda gets. Thank you for justifying the war, and proving that Israel is doing the right thing.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 8:18:00 AM, Blogger n1x said...

I would also like to thank all the arabs who destroyed the UN buildings today. Thank you for showing the world how barbaric you are. Also, I really want to know the reasoning behind this, seeing how we all know Israel "loves" the UN. LOL

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 8:19:00 AM, Blogger Grant Bussell said...

It's amazing how quickly the Australian media have picked up the "blame the terrorists" line rather than looking at reality. It seems like nowadays you can call someone a terrorist and then do anything you like to them, and those around them. It's like McCarthyism in the 50s but then it was 'communists'.

So Israel can blow up Lebanese children with precision guided missiles shipped specially for the occasion by the USA.

So the Australian government will let an Australian citizen rot in Guantanamo without demanding a fair trial for him.

And yet people still believe that these atrocities are somehow going to 'fix' the middle east problem - rather than inflame it. Even in Australia Lebanese-Australians are so angry they are mobbed the Prime Ministers car because he's so gutless and blatantly one-sided with the Americans.

It's like if the IRA had kidnapped two British soldiers, and then the Royal Air Force bombed apartment buildings in Dublin, bridges and airports ... hard to believe how stupid people are :-(

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 12:45:00 PM, Blogger n1x said...

I feel bad for arabs sometimes. For 60 years even before Israel had any sort of power, they've been getting their asses kicked time and time again trying to start with Israel. Now Israel is stronger than ever, with more support from the US than ever, and you guys think you have a chance. LOL

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 1:14:00 PM, Blogger John said...

The Israeli action is like killing the hostages after the kidnappers have fled.
The IDF know that these rocket launch sites are highly mobile and the moment it fires the Hizbollah leave also. So why target the place it came from? What is the IDF trying to achieve?
If they want the a reputation for being ignorant killers of the innocent because they can't find the guilty they are doing a good job.
Does this win them approval in Israel?
If so, then there is no hope. This bloody and totally unnecesary war will go on into perpetuity until the ringmasters get tired of it and move on to somewhere else.
If it is going to stop then it HAS to be the Israelis who stop it.
Over to them.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 3:32:00 PM, Blogger Akiva M said...

Oddly, nobody's responded to my post.

Peyotee, I don't know if the video is online but I saw reports of it on news sites after googling qana and video.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 5:57:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

doesn't matter..
add the to previous series of videos on weapons of mass destruction..
by the way, this post is about martyrs who are children, so when u wanna be rational (aka kheezbollah's fault bla bla bla), then respect the souls of the martyrs and comment on an analytical-political post.
(aka Blogging Basics 101)

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:14:00 PM, Blogger Akiva M said...

Hilal - I think I've been respectful, and I've certainly always prefaced my comments with my grief over the loss of life, which is both sincere and deep.

But if you don't want political comments, then that should be aimed equally at those who say "Israel's fault" as at those who say "Hezbollah's fault". If that's what you want to do, I'll respect that. But don't expect me to listen to the rising tide of hatred and not do what I can to try to douse those flames with facts.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:34:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

facts? facts?
plz give me a break!
wanna ask u a question?
where are the weapons of mass destruction in iraq?
did they find them?
do u remember the videos??
do u know what i saw in the video?
a very bad implementation.. just as the fliers.. just as the announcements that interfere with our radios.. uat as the telephones we get 3 am in the morning making of them fools when trying to speak arabic and not succeed!

meanwhile, mr (retarded-relected) bush says that this is a war between freedom and terror
u r telling me facts?
well keep on with ur facts..
u can select what ever u wnt from the media that supports ur media, but it remains that we lived there and we know better than someone following the media.
we know th land, and we know the people.

ps. it is the 3rd sorry for israel in 2 weeks. and by the way olmert didn't spell the "sorry" statement.
this is a fact.

again u r more than welcome to comment on a political analysis with ur view, but when it comes to live massacre images, well forgive me.
i don't know if u turned to arabic media and saw the live images (not telling u to hear what they say cause maybe u don't know the language.) just put the images infront of u and see them.

ps. in 1996, hizballah was firing ockets from qana.
this is another of never-ending-facts.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 7:09:00 PM, Blogger Akiva M said...

Hilal,

What in the world does Iraq have to do with this??

BTW, most of the deaths in Iraq are caused by Iraqis - Sunni killing Shia, Shia killing Sunni. Where is your outrage over that?


Simple true or false - Hezbollah fired rockets from Qana, and used that building?

If the answer is true, then your anger should be directed at Hezbollah for putting those people in danger, not at the Israelis who had NO WAY OF KNOWING about the people inside.

Unless you think that the answer is false, or that Israel had some way of knowing about the people inside, how in the world can you blame them for firing at that building?

The loss of life is horrible, but the only way to end this is to use your brain, to THINK instead of reacting on emotional instinct.

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:24:00 AM, Blogger John said...

Hi Akiva M
I think that your reasoning is a little superficial.

Now, if the IDF not only had no way of knowing whether there were people inside that building but also knew (as did the rest of the world), that civilians were unable to flee those areas because of the very grave risk of Israeli air attacks, then there is a reasonable assumption that there may well be people sheltering inside it.

Plus, Hezbollah are known to use the civilian population as a shield.
Plus, Hezbollah know that the moment there is a rocket attack the Israelis will locate and target that firing point, so they are not going to hang around they are going to get the hell out of there.

So, the IDF knows, or can make reasonably informed judgements, that:

1. there are likely to be civilians in the area from which a missile was fired;
2. there is every likelihood that there will be no Hezbollah in that location;
3. destroying that building will serve no military purpose.

To the horrified onlooker this looks very much like each side competing to be the worst bully on the block. Hezbollah purposely putting defenceless civilians in harm's way and the Israelis purposely killing them to prove they don't care.

As you say Akiva M "The loss of life is horrible, but the only way to end this is to use your brain, to THINK instead of reacting on emotional instinct."

How about the Israeli and Lebanese people getting together and deciding to stop this bloody awful war that brings nothing but death and misery?

 
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The MK-84 LGB, which weights 2000 lbs (907 kg) and has 948 lbs (430 kg) explosive power, features accuracy, reliability and cost-effectiveness previously unobtainable in conventional weapons.

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17.7.06
Warning Strong Pictures

These are the pictures you will see, only, in Lebanese newspapers tomorrow. yes, too strong & maybe non-postable for ethical reasons, but what is going on in Lebanon has gone beyond any ethics in any worldwide dictionary. This is what the Israeli raids are doing to my country, to my people. This is what they will keep on doing, under the pretext of "self-defense". Those are the terrorists who scared Ehud Olmert. A moment of silence, a prayer and a call for all those who care still about humanity to wake up!!

 
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