1.10.06

Cedar Waste

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When the people in the picture above, participated in the "Cedar Revolution" what did they really want? Yes, I was calling for Syria to leave, but I was also calling for an end of corruption, for an actual revolution in our political system, for a better future. What has changed from March 14th 2005 until October 1st 2006? Can someone tell me, because I can't think of much now. What has the March 14th movement done since? What have the rest of the politicans done since? I need answers soon since I am starting to feel hopeless. I don't want to be a pawn, I want to make a difference.

21 Comments:

At Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:58:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

Are these rhetorical questions?
;)

 
At Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:44:00 PM, Blogger BOB said...

I ask myself the same questions...
The answers are that WE not the politicians not anybody else WE failed.
We should have continued the revolution, brought a new generation up to be our leaders, not the same old ones...
We failed and now we have to live with our mistake and choose between two camps that are worse than each other.

But still i choose the least worse, some choose to stand on the sidelines, out of frustration or anger or even hopelessness. I understand and sometimes I am so sick of these people that i wish to embrace my hopelessness, but if we do that than we are truly lost...

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 12:37:00 AM, Blogger JS said...

welcome to the real world

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 1:55:00 AM, Blogger Bassam said...

Hezbollah’s followers are exactly like people indoctrinated in a cult. They cannot think for themselves. They are indoctrinated in the Shiite religion and they can give a damn about their Lebanon. They are Shiites first them Moslems, then Lebanese, so its obvious where their loyalty lies. These people will never wake up. The rest of the Lebanese feel sorry not for them but for their children for they are also being indoctrinated into following their leader Nassrallah. These people need a leader because they cannot or not capable of leading themselves. They look forward to living in shambles, poverty and like refugees just like the Palestinians. I would have hoped that the educated ones will break their insane path to death and destruction they set out for their future and unfortunately that of other peace loving Lebanese people.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 1:59:00 AM, Blogger Bassam said...

the last was posted in another forum earlier this week. So how could you ask such a question as to what have been done. We are biquering between each other, half the population is making sure road blocks are placed in front of any meaningful decision to better ourselves or country. I hope someone can help because our beloved land is heading to a deep dark painful hole....

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 2:37:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

bassam,

leave ur sectarian pre-assumptions aside plz.

I am an educated non-shitte non- irslani non-aouni non- qawmi non-communist that support the islamic resistance at the moment.

now please. dig your prepared list of assumptions to figure what I am.
:)

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 2:51:00 AM, Blogger Rabie_Halad said...

Sorry but if you were the people in the south the Shiite Muslims religion are you telling me you wouldn't follow Hezballah? the educated ones are probably out there helping Hezballah in their weak points...Hezballah provides for them in the south other than that there is no Rabieh (Rabia) or Caslik in the south...You want to get their attention start building good for their land and they will listen to you. For them the people that damaged them are Israel, the people that allowed them to walk back home are Hezballah. The kids yeah they are being 'indoctrinated' but into bad? no...they are indoctrinated in to the shea religion which is not a bad religion its their choice whether to support hezballah or not...or at least it becomes their choice with more life experience.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 5:05:00 AM, Blogger Rhiannon said...

I don't know much about Hezbollah, but from where I live, a Lebanese man boldly told the city newspaper how Hezbollah saved his son's life.

This 12-year-old boy was in a school-turned shelter with probably about 50 other people trying to keep safe from the aerial bombs. The school was hit and he was buried under rubble. One of the Hezbollah soldiers pulled him out and put him in another place of safety. And very luckily he was able to go home to Canada in a few days after.

I know nothing about the politics of Lebanon. Living in Canada the news is atrocious. Canadian news is getting as bad as the USA. But from what we have been able to see on the Networks only Israel is the monster. There is no comparison to a monster nation like Israel.

My family is predominantly Sunni but when anyone has asked me what sect (stupid question) I'm from, I say adamantly, that I am Muslim. Period. To me there's no difference.

Many of us think highly of Hezbollah. We know that the invasion of Lebanon would have still happened if there had been no Hezbollah.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 10:00:00 AM, Blogger Rampurple said...

I rest my case!

Just look at where this discussion is heading! I ask what the people wanted... the people on March 14th, 2005. I also asked what the politicians have done since. What has changed since. I check back to look at comments... hopefully optimistic and positive comments but instead I see people discussing on whether Hizballah is good or evil.

What happened to the party of Lebanon?
What happened to the people who who want to make a difference?

Bob is right. We are the ones who failed. We the Lebanese people.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 11:26:00 AM, Blogger AbdulKarim said...

I honestly think that the cedar revolution was tackled successfully by HA through there constant vetoing and undermining the government. The first mistake however was not to continue to remove Lahhoud. Had this been done, HA wouldn't have been successful in their attempts.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 3:48:00 PM, Blogger Rampurple said...

abdulkarim so until we remove lahoud we cant have parliament working on the items below?

what about someone who discusses internal security, foreign policy, economical growth.

someone who will find solutions for our problems and ensure that they are solved.

someone to secure jobs.

someone to enhance the education system.

security, stability, and improvement.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 7:53:00 PM, Blogger AbdulKarim said...

yes rampurple we cannot do any of these things unfortunately. HA is getting its christian legitimacy from FPM and the Presidency. Until those two join 14 March, the latter will be useless. Bitter truth.

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 10:16:00 PM, Blogger Hassan said...

Abdulkarim,

Go to www.google.com.

Type "scapegoat".

Press "Enter".

 
At Monday, October 02, 2006 11:14:00 PM, Blogger linalone said...

I would say, Cedar Trash. I'm pointing by this, 99.99% of the lebanese politicians...

 
At Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:48:00 PM, Blogger gabrielf said...

and the 0.01? who do u have in mind?

 
At Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:14:00 PM, Blogger linalone said...

Ma 7ada sara7atan, bass men chen ma 7ett 3ala demte:D

 
At Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:31:00 PM, Blogger Fadi said...

Bassam: Shiite Religion? Shows how much you know. Hence, no need to bother with an answer.

Guys: On March 14, 2004, the Lebanese had a war torn country to look back to. On March 14, 2006, the Lebanese had March 2005 to pride themselves with. Get my point, History is not made in a day. History starts with an outbreak such as March 14, 2006. Bob had this great reference to Dr. Salibi's A House of Many Mansions. I wrote a paper on the book on March 2005, and I posted it on:

http://stingerfly.blogspot.com/2006/10/book-reviewed-house-of-many-mansions.html#links

For the for ever optimist romantic Historian such as yours truely, Fairuz puts it best: Ili sakan el houriyeh, yawm, nhar, ma ba2a ti2dor Roma tisro2 minou il 7orriyeh (That who lives in Freedom for a day, No Rome can ever steal his/her freedom).

March 14th was not the end of the History of Lebanon, it was just the begining. The Lebanese, even (God forgive me) those who stood on March 8th with Lebanese flags, gave their allegiance to Lebanon - knowingly or unknowingly!! That being said, we have a State to build from now onwards. We have a country, now we need a State.

Rhetoric, Introspection are one way forward. Our struggle has just begun. The greatest part of this struggle is having to listen to our politicians talk. They are not Lebanon. We are. Now we have to earn it!

Tip: Keep Weam Wahab and Naser Kandeel under the lid, they give me hay fever.

 
At Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:30:00 PM, Blogger Xylocaine said...

The cedar revolution and reformation was hindered by the bombs and assasinations, Lahoud, Syria puppies and hizbulla....who stopped the latest dilaogue for reformation by starting the war and insisitng on digging bunkers and holding weapons....ah..and let's not forget the chair thirsty Aoun...who seems to forget who killed his soldiers and imprisoned his followers duirng the past 15 years!!!

So with such big obstacles and objection...how can any government do anything...and the last war was almost a knockout for the cedar revolution.

Cedar revoultion politicians may not be great...but look at the alternative!!!!

Syrian puppets back in the government..and hizbulla running the show....Tamem!!! Another war around the corner and bye bye lebanon.

 
At Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:39:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

I thought that some of 14 march pliticians played roles in the lebanese war, why excluding this "option" to syrian puppetsand HA?

 
At Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:42:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

replace "excluding" by "exclusively giving"

 
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