Rosemary 'can lie in the church' gave a historical outlook about Lebanon made in TelAviv

Rosemary TelAviv gave a historical outlook about Lebanon made in TelAviv

I was watching CNN in horror tonight as Rosemary (who can lie -it seems- even inside a Church) promised the viewers a historical outlook that has the potential to illuminate the whole essence of “the deal” of the Middle East problem, blow their minds away and make them smarter all at once!

The most genuine part, were the little “brainwash” sentences displayed on the screen as the episode went on. As an example: “Country created from groups that had little in common”, as if the Lebanese were imported from Taiwan and Mexico and implanted stupidly together, and they have no history nor culture in common… So just like that! Ms. “can lie in the Church” found the problem and maybe the solution at the same time: Separate them! The problem is not the Israeli aggressor, it’s the Victim again!

The guest was a former ambassador (David Mack I guess), who didn’t seem to interact much with her interpretation of the events but struggled bad to explain to her that Israel was the one attacking Lebanon, and that it didn’t start last month, but since 1968 when he was an ambassador in Lebanon and the Israelis bombed the Beirut airport- version 1!

So as for the historical outlook of Ms. “can lie in the Church”, here are the main points:
- The country was formed by the French in what was western Syria in the 20s
- They placed a collection of people that have nothing in common together
- The government is based on power sharing between people that have nothing in common and hence the problems!
- Due to this ongoing struggle and from the beginning, Israel supported the Christians, against the Shiaas supported by Iran (I really forgot what she said about who supported the Sunnis, maybe Syria!) and hence the –dreaded- power struggle

Now for the history of Palestine (this one also good)
- In the 1940's the Palestinians started fighting the Jews
- The UN decided to partition Paletstine for Arabs and Jews
- The Jews declared their independence

And THAT'S THAT! Now the CNN viewers know the essence of the problem and can analyze the shit out of the last events for themselves and project the future so comfortably like little visionaries. So who volunteered this outlook for Rosemary and why stressing on these half-truths and full lies so much now! And how would these lead to any better understanding of the situation and Israeli aggression? Unless they do it in a very specific way that serves Israel’s ongoing effort at falsifying our history and justifying its anomaly:

- Lebanon created from western Syria by France is carefully packaged as an answer to all the westerners that say that Israel was created by the British. And while the modern state of Lebanon was created by the French, recent Lebanon existed (with growing and shrinking borders) as a semi-independent entity since the 16th century (more detail in a later post) and populated by the present day Lebanese. In contrast, Israel's quasi majority of the population are 2nd or 3rd generation Israelis who were imported from Europe and who drove the indigineous population out and hence the worlds current largest refugee population sinde 1948: the Palestinians
- Lebanon is unstable and is meant to disintegrate… So if a civil strife starts again in Lebanon (and TelAviv and NeoConSphere are at it! as they’re doing in Iraq)… Nobody objects if the partitioning solution imposes itself again (the famous Libanization of the 70s-80s). It’s the solution to stop the struggling people’s 86 years old misery
- The Israelis are not that bad!! It’s the Lebanese Christians who are ungrateful! Israelis helped them since the 1920s to balance their position in front of Shiaas who were supported by Iran. And now they’re siding with Khizbullah… Death to the terrorists and their supporters! (for those who are not familiar with the history of the region, neither Israel existed in the 1920s nor Iran had any influence on the Shiaa of Lebanon until the 1980s)
- The awkward French placed a collection of people that have nothing in common and on the top of that, they are sharing power and THAT’S BAD! PLURALITY AND TOLERANCE ARE BAD FOR YOU, they don’t work! You need the Israeli model! And yes for spinning off new racist confessional states in the new Middle-East modeled after the Greater State of Israel (remember Ms. Rice birth pangs parabola – we feel it kick).

All this rimes well with the rising rhetoric in the media about the weakness of Lebanon or the army, and the carefully chosen words of the Israeli hypocrite to the UN about the same topic and the strength of Khizballah etc.

And as for Palestine:
- The ‘European immigrated’ Jews seem to have been there all the time, the problems just started in the 1940s spontaneously. Given that the Palestinians are called terrorists all the time, the viewer is left to himself to deduce who were the bad guys then too!
- The Palestinians began arriving (not driven out, not chased, not made refugees but arriving) in 1940s to Lebanon on their long honeymoon ever since
- Israel declared its independence in 1948 and a bunch of old ladies saluted the flag and that’s that!


Although the little show above might be petty and insignificant, it gives me the creeps because it is an indication that the Israel propaganda and political scheming machine is working again towards a civil war in Lebanon, and this is not naïve nor insignificant. Israel’s ultimate goal is to get rid of the “Palestinian question”, and it means first and foremost getting rid of the refugees and creating an outlet where it can drive out as many more Palestinians from the occupied territories as possible. Lebanon in a civil war again, is the ONLY possible solution for that to happen!

A conveniently “KhHizbullah-free” South Lebanon and a good multi-national buffer force between South Lebanon and Israel, will mean good conditions for the Palestinian refugees to stay where they are! They wouldn’t be able to attack Israel anymore as they would be attacking the Americans, French or other contributors to the force (if they still can attack by then). They wouldn't either want to exercise the right of return anymore as they will be given the nationality of whatever entity where they’re staying was named. This might also lead to a new chaotic Gaza implanted in the south of Lebanon and part of another forever un-alive state.

I’m not claiming here that Lebanon is problem-free, because as any nation, it has it’s own systemic problems and maybe more that the norm for most nations! However Lebanon is above all a “pluralistic” model that needs support and encouragement. It’s a model where the power is shared between different confessions who, most importantly share common values through their mixed families, villages and towns and through an ever booming culture and economy and a drive to resist oppression and defend their homeland.

Lebanon could be a recipe for a Muslim-west conciliation or a “world at peace” contrary to the clash of civilization theories preached by the neo-cons and the Zionists behind them, it’s the proof that peace between Islam, Christianity and secularism can exist! And it’s the exact anti-model for the racist apartheid state of Israel and all other fundamentalist ideologies of this world -Zionism- not excluded.

The war against terror which is the hidden face of the “clash of civilizations” is being fought in Lebanon but not in the same sense that the Israelis are trying to give to it! For if this pluralistic Lebanese model- is killed to relief a -racist Israeli model-, the next waves of "civil unrest" and clashes of civilization are going to happen in Paris and London and other cities around the world and these are going to involve more than a bomb in a subway! This blind support and endorsement of the democratic West (built over christian values) to an ever expanding Israel, while ignoring the simple principles of Justice, will fast forward us into the real global mayhem of civilizations! The West would have allowed the NeoCons to have made a self-fulfilled prophecy!


At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:02:00 AM, Blogger Mirvat said...

that would be wishfull thinking on their part. of course it's what the neocons seem to endorse these days, to create the perfect conditions for a civil war to erupt, divide and conquer, but it just won't happen.
also i think israel is perfectly capable of going on with its ethnic cleansing in the occupied territory without the need for the south..
you're right about the PR prepping for the next move, but it just won't happen. we won't be another iraq.
"Lebanon could be a recipe for a Muslim-west conciliation or a “world at peace” contrary to the clash of civilization theories preached by the neo-cons and the Zionists behind them, it’s the proof that peace between Islam, Christianity and secularism can exist! And it’s the exact anti-model for the racist apartheid state of Israel and all other fundamentalist ideologies of this world Zionism not excluded."
very well put.

i can't wait for some of the reponses here from our israeli friends. i can almost anticipate most of them.. you know the usual..

At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:00:00 AM, Blogger Amethyst54 said...

"The world has become accustomed to the idea of mass migrations and has become fond of them…Hitler—as odious as he is to us—has given this idea a good name in the world." Ze’ev Jabotinsky; Ideological founder of the Likud Party "One Palestine Complete" p 407

"The raw logic of Israel’s distorted self-image and racist doctrines is exposed beyond confusion by the now-stark reality: the moonscape rubble of once-lovely Lebanese villages; a million desperate people trying to survive Israeli aerial attacks as they carry children and wheel disabled grandparents down cratered roads; limp bodies of children pulled from the dusty basements of crushed buildings. This is the reality of Israel’s national doctrine, the direct outcome of its racist worldview." Virginia Tilley "The Case for Boycotting Israel" Counterpunch

By bombing the highways and main bridges into Beirut, Israel has cut off the capital from the outside world and put the entire nation under siege. Israel can now execute its plan to pummel Lebanon into rubble without the threat of foreign intervention.

The north has been effectively severed from the south allowing the IDF to continue its ethnic cleansing operations as well as its search-and-destroy missions for Hezbollah fighters. They have meticulously destroyed all the main points of entry at the Syrian border and blockaded the coastline. Israel believes that their earlier occupation (which ended in year 2000) failed due to the unrestricted flow of supplies and weaponry from Syria and Iran. The Bush administration has assisted this effort by providing crucial intelligence from the NSA about the movement of material from the outside.

By now, it should be apparent that Israel’s military campaign has nothing to do with Hezbollah’s capturing of the 2 Israeli soldiers on July 14. The present plan, which was drawn up more than a year ago (and which high-ranking members of the Bush administration were fully briefed) is designed to establish a new northern border for Israel at the Litani River and create an "Israel-friendly" regime in Beirut.

The plan to annex the land south of the Litani River dates back to the founding of the Jewish state when Israel’s first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion described the country’s future borders this way: "To the north the Litani River, the southern border will be pushed into the Sinai, and to the east, the Syrian Desert, including the furthest edge of Transjordan." (See Map of post WW1 Zionist plan for region

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Story1045.html )

In 1978 the IDF launched Operation Litani with the intention of annexing the southern part of Lebanon and setting up a Christian client-regime in Beirut that would take orders from Tel Aviv. Israel said that it needed a "buffer zone" for its security, the same excuse that it uses today. The 1982 invasion devolved into an 18 year onslaught which ravaged the Lebanese economy and killed more than 20,000 civilians. In 2000, Israel was driven from Lebanon by the persistent attacks of the Lebanese resistance organization, Hezbollah.

The media portrayal of the current conflict is blatantly absurd. It has nothing to due with "captured soldiers" or Israel’s "right to defend itself". This is a traditional war with clear territorial and political objectives. The border controversy is nonsense. Israel is trying to seize more land to realize its vision of "Greater Israel" while reducing an adjacent Arab country to a "permanent state of colonial dependency". This explains the vast and deliberate destruction to Lebanon’s civilian infrastructure. Israel’s dominance requires that its neighbors endure abject poverty and oppression. By destroying the infrastructure and life-support systems, Israel hopes to eliminate the rise of a potential rival as well as to diminish the ability of the Lebanese resistance to wage war against the Jewish state. Once Lebanon is decimated, it will be delivered to Zionists at the World Bank (Paul Wolfowitz) who will apply the shackle of reconstruction loans and structural readjustment, which will keep Lebanon as an indentured servant to the global banking establishment. This model of economic servitude has been used throughout the developing world with varying degrees of success. It anticipates Israel’s regional ascendancy while ensuring that Lebanon’s sovereignty will be compromised for decades to come.

The United States has played a unique role in Israel’s war on Lebanon. In its 230 year history the US has never deliberately assisted in an attack on an ally. That record will end with Lebanon.

Lebanon was demonstrably "pro-American" government on friendly terms with Washington. In fact, American NGOs and intelligence organizations helped to activate the "Cedar Revolution" which gave rise to the Fouad Siniora government and the eventual expulsion of Syrian troops. To a large extent, Washington and Tel Aviv had achieved what they wanted to by meddling in Lebanon’s political affairs. The country was singled out as a shining example of Bush’s "global democratic revolution", which was the stated goal of American intervention in the Middle East.

Lebanon has since been rewarded for its cooperation by the total obliteration of its economy and infrastructure. The Bush administration has abandoned any pretense of being an "honest broker" and is now providing Israel with precision-guided missiles to prosecute a war against a (mainly) civilian population. They are also actively collaborating with the Olmert regime to foil all plans for an immediate ceasefire. The United States is a fully-engaged partner in the premeditated destruction of a democratic country. It is as much a part of the Israeli aggression as any IDF tank commander rumbling towards Beirut.

The United Nations has been sidelined by the administration’s obstructionism at the Security Council. The efforts of the Bolton-Rice team are tantamount to a "declaration of war". So far, the Israeli offensive has uprooted nearly 1 million people in the south; making refugees of approximately 25% of the Lebanon’s total population. The UN has done nothing to respond to this calamity. Its ineffectiveness casts doubt on whether it will survive the present crisis. Security in the new century will ultimately depend on alliances between the individual countries. The UN model of one, monolithic international institution trying to "preserve the peace" has proved to be a wretched failure.

The scene in the south of Lebanon is hauntingly similar to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948; the Nakba. Once again, Israel is seen driving Muslims from their homes in an attempt to expand its territory. The "deliberate" attack on Qana, which killed 57 civilians, as well as the bombing of clearly marked ambulances and "white flag-waving" mini-buses chock-full of fleeing villagers, shows that the Israeli high-command still understands the importance of using terror as a means of controlling behavior. Israel’s carefully calculated atrocities have had the desired effect; triggering the mass-exodus of hundreds of thousands of frightened civilians and leaving Hezbollah guerillas to fight it out with the IDF.

The Bush administration is now attempting to pacify its critics by pushing a resolution that calls for a "full cessation of hostilities". The resolution does not demand that Israel stop attacking Hezbollah nor does it require the IDF to leave Lebanon. It is Munich all over again; a miserable "sell-out" by the Security Council that guarantees a steady increase in the violence as well as an intensification of the rage that is sweeping across the Muslim world. The UN has unwittingly endorsed Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon and created the foundation for another generation of terrorists. The resolution shows that the UN is nothing more than a "cat’s paw" for US/Israeli geopolitical ambitions and that the "post-colonial" European allies are willing to succumb to the neocon plan for a "New Middle East".

The UN is not an "honest broker"; its bumbling attempts at peace have only provided the cover of international legitimacy to Israel’s rampage. Israel will now continue its crusade unobstructed; setting up outposts throughout the south, pushing the Shia off their land, attacking Hezbollah as they see fit, and installing an Israeli-client in Beirut.

Israel will never return to its "internationally recognized" northern border unless it is beaten-back by the Lebanese national resistance, Hezbollah.

What does Israel want?

The only way that Israel can maintain its dominance in the region is by becoming a main-player in the oil-trade. Otherwise it will continue to be dependent on the United States to strengthen its military and defend its interests. Israel’s determination to "stand on its own 2 feet" is outlined in the neocon plan for "rebuilding Zionism" in the 21st century; "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm". The document is the blueprint for redrawing the map of the Middle East and eliminating rivals to Israeli power. Most of the attention has been focused on the parts of the paper which presage the attacks on Iraq, Lebanon and Syria; including this ominous passage:

"Securing the Northern Border: Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which America can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran, as the principle agents of aggression in Lebanon, including by:

paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syria is not immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.

striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove to be insufficient, string at select targets in Syria proper." ("A Clean Break"; Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser)

Clearly, this is the basic schema for US/Israeli aggression in the region. What has been overlooked, however, is Israel’s determination to "break away" from its traditional dependence on American support. As stated in the text:

(Israel intends to) "forge a new basis for relations with the US—stressing self-reliance, maturity, strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents economic reform. Israel can make a clean-break from the past and establish a new vision for the US-Israeli partnership based on self-reliance, maturity, and mutuality—not one narrowly focused on territorial disputes. (Israel) does not need US troops in any capacity to defend it…and can manage its own affairs. Such self-reliance will grant Israel greater freedom of action and remove a significant lever of pressure used against it in the past….No amount of weapons or victories will grant Israel the peace it seeks. When Israel is on sound footing, and is free, powerful, and healthy internally, it will no longer simply manage the Arab-Israeli conflict; it will transcend it".

Israel’s "economic freedom" depends in large part on its ability to become a central petroleum-depot for the global oil trade. In Michel Chossudovsky’s recent article "Triple Alliance: US, Turkey, Israel and the War on Lebanon", the author provides a detailed account of the alliances and agreements which underscore the current war. As Chossudovsky says, "We are not dealing with a limited conflict between the Israeli Armed Forces and Hezbollah as conveyed by the Western media. The Lebanese War Theater is part of a broader US military agenda, which encompasses a region extending from the Eastern Mediterranean into the heartland of Central Asia. The war on Lebanon must be viewed as 'a stage’ in this broader 'military road map’". Chossudovsky shows how the recently completed Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan pipeline has strengthened the Israel-Turkey alliance and foreshadows an attempt to establish "military control over a coastal corridor extending from the Israeli-Lebanese border to the East Mediterranean border between Syria and Turkey."

Lebanese sovereignty is one of the unfortunate casualties of this Israel-Turkey strategy. Most of the oil from the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan pipeline will be transported to western markets but, what is less well-known, is that a percentage of the oil will be diverted through a "proposed" Ceyhan-Ashkelon pipeline which will connect Israel directly to rich deposits in the Caspian. This will allow Israel to supply markets in the Far East from its port at Eilat on the Red Sea. It is an ambitious plan that ensures that Israel will be a critical part of the global energy distribution system. (See Michel Chossudovsky, ,The war on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil, July 2006)

Oil is also a major factor in the calls for "regime change" in Syria. An article in the UK Observer "Israel Seeks Pipeline for Iraqi Oil" notes that Washington and Tel Aviv are hammering out the details for a pipeline that will run through Syria and "create and endless and easily accessible source of cheap oil for the US guaranteed by reliable allies other than Saudi Arabia." The pipeline "would transform economic power in the region, bringing revenue to the new US-dominated Iraq, cutting out Syria, and solving Israel’s energy crisis at a stroke."

The Israeli Mossad is already operating in northern Iraq where the pipeline will originate and have developed good relations with the Kurds. The only remaining obstacle is the current Syrian regime which has already entered the US/Israeli crosshairs. The Observer quotes a CIA official who said, "It has long been a dream of a powerful section of the people now driving this administration and the war in Iraq to safeguard Israel’s energy supply as well as that of the US. The Haifa pipeline was something that existed, was resurrected as a dream, and is now a viable project—albeit with a lot of building to do."

Former US ambassador James Atkins added, "This is a new world order now. This is what things look like particularly if we wipe out Syria. It just goes to show that it is all about oil, for the United States and its ally."

The Middle East is being reshaped according to the ideological aspirations of Zionists and the exigencies of a viciously-competitive energy market. Behind the bombed-out ruins of Qana and the endless sorties laying Lebanon to waste, are the tireless machinations of the energy giants, the corporate media, the banking establishment and Israel.

Don’t expect a quick return to peace. This war is just beginning.

At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:25:00 AM, Blogger Fakty said...

I didn't see the interview by "Ms. can lie in the Church”, but if described correctly, it doesn't surprise at all. I believe those who want to know a little more about the root causes to the problems in the Middle East, may learn a lot by visiting http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

Obviously she doesn’t know to much about the root causes, and may benefit by doing some research before going on “air”.

The Arab countries are now trying to unite in regards to the ongoing slaughter in Lebanon, and I assume they understood that their own citizens was about to rise against their own governments for the passive stand they have taken.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of the citizens in all countries are furious with their governments handling of the issues at hand. It appears that Europe has been somewhat hampered in their response to the conflict, mainly due to Britain, who is standing “shoulder to shoulder” with the US administration, defending Israel’s right to continue the bloodbath.

The Jordanian king said in an interview yesterday that the west “had” to consider the stand taken by the Arabs. Jordan is one of the best allies of the west in the region, but is now voicing a critic that slaps the American administration and their puppet in London. The way I understood him, he pointed to several nations around the world as disaster areas due to the west.

When Israel’s blood hunger is temporarily satisfied in Lebanon, the International community should soonest possible investigate and bring charges of war crimes against the Israeli government. There will be no peace without justice for crimes they have committed in Lebanon, only a short brake. Also nations that has supported this crimes, like US and UK, should face the responsibility of all those innocent civilians killed, we all owe that to the dead, wounded and smoldering ruins of Lebanon.

In fact, the three nations of Israel, US and UK should be held accountable economically, not as US always prefers, the International community.

At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:35:00 PM, Blogger Am Mijares said...


Yes, I totally agree with your analysis of the situation. We hope and pray that the post-war Lebanon, and I hope it will come soon, would be to continue this very important "experiment". Let's pray that the Lebanese people and the Israelites would overcome the wounds of war and from a common experience of suffering due to war and violence, open up to a greater understanding.

The world needs this multi-racial, multi-cultural,multi-religious society for the sake of world peace and Lebanon has a very sublime vocation for this!

Thank you!

At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:33:00 PM, Blogger LebExile said...

It's ironic that you would disparrage the US for obstructing the UN from bringing about a ceasefire, while Hizballah was doing just that only a few months ago while at the Natioal Dialoge Round Table.

The UN passed a resolution called 1559 last year, that among other things required all militia's in Lebanon to disarm.

Why is no one asking for the implementation of this resolution???

The US were extremely patient with the Lebanese govt on this, as they too were hoping that the Hezbollah would see reason, and disarm peacefully. However, the US, like every other nation on this earth know that the Lebanese govt cannot disarm the Hezbollah, and so, now it is Israelis turn to have a go.

Likewise, the US will be very patient with them, and assist as much as they can, as Lebanon is not the enemy of the US, neither is Israel, but Hezbollah is.

We have an al-Quada wannabe terror group that is tryiing to masquarade as a resistance and the west in general and the US in particular will not sit by and watch them gain any ground.

Just like the Taliban were defeated in Afghanistan, the Hezbollah must be defeated in Lebanon... or close enough to being defeated.

It is unfortunate that many civilians will get killed, but, this must be played out until the Hezbollah are totally defeated - no half measures here.

If they were at all interested in Lebanon's interests, then they would have laid out their demands flat out, and declared specifically that:

1. We demand that the Israelis withdraw from Sheeba
2. We demand the map of landmines in the south planted by the Israelis
3. We demand that prisioners in Isareli jails who are Lebanese be released.

once these demands are met, then we will disarm, and enter negotiations into full peace.

Maybe not these exact demands, maybe there are a few more, but something along these lines. However, the Hizbollah had no intention of disarming, no matter what the Israelis would give up...

So, please spare me the whining, we need this war, Israel are doing us a very big favor, and we will indeed reap the benefits afterwoods.

As for the Shia that still to this day supprt Hezbollah. I say - go fight with them - Jihad Jihad Jihad

The longer this lasts, the fewer there will be of you to cause further trouble..

At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:12:00 PM, Blogger Fakty said...


I fully agree with you. Some few years ago US told that UN was unable or willing to act to the mandate given to them, and had no problem in bypassing them. Their "shoulder to shoulder" friend in London applauded the decision of the US president, both bluntly lying about WMD's whenever they could. The result is todays democratic Iraq.

I must say that I believe that UN's General Secretary is a man to be respected, however, the reputation of UN today (especially in connection with Lebanon) has proven to be of no use in connection with conflicts. The French has not stood up to the expectations one could have hoped for, and UN's credibility of solving conflicts may therefore smoulder like the ruins of Lebanon, may be just as US has hoped for.

UN in 1847 decided to give 55% of Palestinian land to the Jewish state, something the Jew's thought were far to little. Since then they have claimed more and more territory, and never paid attention to UN Resolutions issued against them. The International community still has a chance to react in a way that will be seen as impartial, but then they better get their acts together fast and issue a Resolution that take into consideration the Lebanese demands.

At Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:54:00 PM, Blogger Fakty said...

To LebExile

It’s really ironic that you compare the actions of Hezbollah with US. I advice you to go to http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/ where you might be able to see why peace in the region is an illusion, if US foreign policy does not deal with the root causes of the problems in the Middle East.

UN has passed many resolutions, among them 1559, and as a matter of fact, UN has also passed 68 Resolutions against Israel, who decided not to heed a single one. You can go to http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html and see them all.

If one demand implementation of 1559, it seams just that Israel is asked to implement the 68 Resolutions they didn’t heed. Enforcing a Resolution against one nation, but not those against Israel will certainly be considered bias politic. Besides, the present Lebanese government is only 1 year old, and has during this period made progress in regards to the implementation of 1559.

The reasoning you give for Israel to lay Lebanon in ruins is pathetic. They have until now failed, and in spite of US technology most analysts think it’s impossible. The ongoing war has probably opened the eyes of most people in the region, now realizing that Israel is not unbeatable. US never been patient, and the sledgehammer tactic has proven to be a disaster.

Go back in history to late 1800’s and especially 1947, then one can judge if resistance is rooted in justifiable causes. Hezbollah was organized in 1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon, and has as far as I know never appeared to be anything but a resistance movement.

I do not agree to your statement about the west, people all over the world are reacting with horror to the destruction and massacres committed by Israel in Lebanon. It will be wrong to say that Blair in London represents western Europe, and as I’m sure you know, his days as PM is soon ending.

Al-Quada and WMD’s were used by US in connection with Iraq to justify their invasion there, but as everybody knows today, it was false arguments. Al-Quada came to Iraq as a result of US-led invasion. Comparing Hezbollah with Al-Quada in order to justify Israel’s actions in Lebanon will probably fail as well. What US will or will not do can’t be predicted, but it seams like they in spite of all their weaponry is at a standstill in Iraq, and the latest polls indicate that 60 percent of Americans now are against the war.

When you refer to the Taliban as defeated many will probably disagree with you. If the news I seen is correct, they have reorganized and are considered a formidable force who can threaten the stability of Afghanistan. If so, I’m not sure that defeated is the correct word.

Most analysts say that Hezbollah can’t be defeated militarily. If correct, what has Israel won if anything? Destroying a neighboring country and spreading horror doesn’t earn respect, on the contrary, hatred and brutality may flourish like never before.

The demands has been laid flat out by all countries in the region, namely that Israel leave occupied territory and give the Palestinians what is rightfully theirs. Not the piece of Land Israel with the backing of US is willing to give Palestinians, but by realizing that they have legitimate rights. Dictating how their nation is going to look like will not benefit peace.

When you say “However, the Hizbollah had no intention of disarming, no matter what the Israelis would give up”, I wonder how you know? Israel has not been in the “business of giving up” something, on the contrary, they have constantly been increasing their territory and building up their might in the region.

Who are “we” who need this war? You may need it, but most human beings do not, and strongly oppose the meaningless destruction and deaths.

Finally, I will just say that you should not ask for something that may hit you like a stone. If one day somebody yell “Jihad” in your ears, you may wont to reconsider your point of view. During WW2 Hitler did his outmost to eradicate Jew’s, which rightfully has been deemed a crime against humanity. To wish like you do that the same should happen to Shia’s, shows how little concern you have for others. Hopefully you’re a young guy who still has the possibility to learn of history.

At Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:05:00 PM, Blogger Fadi said...

Funny that I sent an email to a highly educated man in the US, only to get a similar response. Lebanon is not a country, neither is Iraq, and Israel was formed at the same year.. etc.. etc...

This is dangerous. I think we should join forces to draft a historically "water proof" list of the historic truths that is availabe to all bloggers. It's not everytime one is able to list all the facts & figures in response to abusrdities that want to grant israel impunity and a free pass to kill.

You are welcome to get in touch,

At Friday, August 11, 2006 10:20:00 AM, Blogger Sherri said...

I am a Christian American, and I have been following the Israeli/ Lebanon conflict and praying for peace for Lebanon and an end to the killing of the innocent civilians of your country.

I am so ashamed of my country and its involvement there. I see Israel dropping bombs and killing children and other defenseless civilians and destroying your country, and the US sending rush shipments of more bombs and weapons for Israel's further use.

The world sits back and watches and does not stop it. Where is our humanity? We are all human beings.

What makes me angry, in the US, is how this is being portrayed by Bush (who has to be the worst President this country has ever had) and the media here. Bush keeps talking and making speeches about September 11 and the war on terror. We are being told this is part of the war on terror, and Israel is just defending itself from terrorists who threaten its very existence. They keep repeating how radical Hezbullah is and how its main goal is the destruction of Israel.

And Bush keeps talking about Hezbullah as terrorists who hate freedom and democracy. What are terrorists? Terrorists are Bush's enemies who have been placed on a list and labelled as terrorists.

I keep hearing how Israel loves the people of Lebanon, and is doing them a favor by getting rid of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization.

The civilians who die are blamed for their own deaths. Exs: They should not have been harboring terrorists in their country; Terrorists are shooting missiles from the civilian's homes; They are the wives and children of terrorists; They were warned to leave by leaflets and they did not go.

There is so much deception and lies being told here in the US. And so much ignorance about the Middle East. There is a tremendous need for those in Lebanon and the Arab world to get the truth told in the US. There needs to be a real ad campaign to address this.

What is the conflict about? When Israel became a state in 1948, it became involved with wars with Arab countries. It took Arab land, some of which it still holds, in violation of many United Nations Resolutions. It still holds Sheeba Farms and the Occupied Territories, the West Bank, and Gaza. It still holds the Golan Heights. The Palestinians do not have their own country and are occupied and oppressed by Israel.
Human Rights Organizations have found there are today humanitarian crisis occurring both in Lebanon and the Occupied Territories.

Amnesty International has already issued a report identifying war crimes Israel is committing in Lebanon. This includes targeting civilians and civilian objects with the air bombing, using cluster bombs on civilians, using vacuum bombs on civilians, using white phosphorous against civilians, using bunker busting bombs which contain depleted uranium (a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal),denying humanitarian access and humanitarian relief, the use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare.

At Friday, August 11, 2006 8:09:00 PM, Blogger Fakty said...

To Sherri,

I believe you are at the core of the problems when you refer to the sitting president as the worst ever. He is a tragedy, not only for US but the whole world.

When one realizes that we are all human beings, wherever born, and that each and everyone has the same right to be respected, we would have come a long way.

Committing war crimes should be taken seriously wherever it happens, and those standing “shoulder to shoulder” with the one committing such crimes, is as guilty as them.

If you have not already read the open letter former Lebanese PM Salim Al-Hoss sent the US president recently, I recommend you do it. It can be located at http://abutamam.blogspot.com/



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