Riz'oo Laban bil Libnan K'teer Tahybay

Condileeza has blessed Lebanese soil. You know I wouldn't miss a chance to show my deep admiration for this bastion of the American delusion. I just saw an image of Saad sort of enamoured and awkward in her presence on BBC World. He gave her this sheepish look, coming into profile as a result, then looked back at the camera beaming like a little child. It was rather cute. Hehe... Only thing missing was for him to say, "Mommy?"

And, hey, London's becoming a little like Beirut was back in the day...more attempted tube bombings, somebody was shot dead at Stockwell Station in south London, and just now there was what appears to have been a shootout in northwest London on Harrow Rd. Some civilian at the scene was on the phone with the BBC anchor. He spoke of what sounded like 7 shots being fired.

So this is a big thanks to Condi "Mushroom Cloud and" Rice for globalising terror to the best of her ability. She is truly a model for all war-mongering liars.

It's funny how it was an unannounced visit. She obviously feels very welcome in Lebanon...kind of in the same way as she feels in Iraq.

Anyway, I recommend the riz'oo laban. Mmm...



At Friday, July 22, 2005 6:53:00 PM, Blogger hummbumm said...

Aaah, now the connection to Khalid Jarrar is apparent. A shared ideology. While I hope and pray for his safety, you guys are both full of crap.

At Friday, July 22, 2005 7:59:00 PM, Blogger JoseyWales said...

Do you even have a remote understanding of why it is the Syrians left Lebanon?

BTW, That idiot was shot dead in London for a simple reason. It's not Bush, it's not colonialism, it's not Palestine, it's not because people wear fur.

It's because the police told him: "STOP" and he didn't, in a WAR/DANGEROUS environment.

At Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:17:00 AM, Blogger liminal said...

nah, no ideology here...

condi lied, people died. and they continue to die.

where are the wmd?

simple as one, two, three.

full of crap?
you must be kidding me. or you have believed her lies. or maybe you think they still might find the wmd in iraq. and thus, it may be you that is filled with the ideology.

who knows what you may think is real!


At Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:33:00 AM, Blogger liminal said...

Jad takes the words right out of my mouth when thinking about lies and the lying liars that tell them. And I could easily apply them here. It has nothing to do with ideology. It is about human life, respect, and decency.

"Cause I prefer to be insulted or beaten up than to be lied to, not even lied to; to be promised something then ignoring that promise; God I hate that feeling. Hope a last minute solution occurs, until then, take it easy."

At Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:39:00 PM, Blogger Tempest said...

Is it a bad thing that Saddam is not in power anymore?

Is it a bad thing that fundamentalists are dying every day?

Is it a bad thing that Syria was kicked out of Lebanon?

Is it a bad thing that Hizbullah is being pressured to disarm?

Back to Condi, you can't but appreciate her visit, the message of support she left for Lebanon, and the very important message sent to Syria by not dropping by.

Back to London, the police had every single right to shoot and kill that bastard. They said "Stop!", he ran into a subway station. What should they have done? tried to understand him? Shoot and kill the son of a bitch, ask questions later. Better one than 50.

Fight fire with fire, I say, long live Pres. Bush, he realises the existence of a threat, and while you want to understand and nurture, love and care for, he's going to take that threat out.

Our side will suffer, but eventually, we will emerge victorious.

At Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:04:00 PM, Blogger callipyge said...

I agree, I think Condi's visit is a good thing.
The thing we should all be afraid of is not the USA spreading an ideology of hate but all our fellows who think "ya haram that people should die like that" and yet rationalize the motives of the terrorists.
We're no victims.

At Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:06:00 PM, Blogger callipyge said...

I nevertheless thinks cops should have better means to stop people without having to kill them. Wasn't one shot enough? Did they need to shoot him 5 more times when he was already down on the ground?
This sounds like LAPD exported to London.

At Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:35:00 AM, Blogger Tempest said...

callipyge, nope. The stuff with the LAPD and the riots and all was extreme, in this case, the guy was suspicious, wearing a heavy coat, and running from the police, into a subway. Shoot to kill. And make sure he's dead. He might have made some quick movement, and they reacted.

True, the guy turned out to be innocent, apparently, but it's better safe than sorry.

Again, they were shooting to kill, 4 extra shots would assure that he was dead.

At Monday, July 25, 2005 2:23:00 AM, Blogger raf* said...

imagine this:

you live in london. you have lived in london for 3 years. two weeks ago there were suicide bomb attacks in the tube & on a bus. just yesterday (thursday 21 july 2005) there were attempts to do a repeat attack (3 on the tube, 1 on a bus). you leave your house and go to the tube. some men yell at you "police! stop!"...

see, this is the moment where you SHOULD: stop. wait for them to catch up with you. follow their orders. not make any rash movements. let them identify you. if they ask you to, then come with them to the police station. let them examine your passport. do what they say & cooperate with the police.


- run from people saying they're police
- run towards the tube
- jump a turnstyle
- keep running towards a train
- think "i can outrun them & hop on a train & then i'll be gone"

i am sorry for the family of the brazilian guy. but he acted stupidly on so many levels that it boggles my mind...

1. regardless when & where -- in europe you don't have to run from the police. after 3 years in london he should know that london is NOT like the favelas in brazil
2. a day after a terrorist attack you DON'T do anything suspicious in a tube.
3. if you haven't done anything wrong - why run? do people get arrested falsely? yes, sure they do. it happened to me, it happened & happens to others. police aren't omnitient. so what? you get stopped, they'll ask you to identify yourself, they may even take you to the station. big fucking deal.

as a citizen and/or resident you COOPERATE with the police. you answer their questions. you are nice to them - they are nice to you. had the brazilian followed the orders of the police - stopped - they probably would've ordered him to stay calm, not move, and then made sure he doesn't have any explosives on him. THEN they would've taken his personal info & questioned him on his role in the house they were observing and any tenants & possible suspicious activities. THEN they would've thanked him for his help & asked for his understanding of their harsh measures which are rooted in the previous terror attacks.

the police chief might've even commended him on tv for his understanding and cooperation, quite probably citing him as "an example of the good relationship between the residents and police of greater london".


long story short: a day after a bomb attack - DON'T RUN FROM THE POLICE.

and as for the 5 bullets - as horrible as it seems to us, there isn't much you can do in the case of a suicide bomber: the bomb is set off either by pressing a switch or letting go of one. the only way to prevent the explosion from happening is to "freeze" the situation. which you do by killing the person as quickly as possible. headshots are the quickest way. also, shooting in the torso might result in hitting the explosives/trigger & thus detonate the bomb(s). 5 shots might have been more than enough, but please take into account the fact that british police are not used to using firearms and may very well have been agitated - after a(nother) day of bombs and in hot pursuit of what they had to assume was a wanna-be suicide bomber. they operated on the "better safe than sorry" principle. and 5 bullets are surer to kill someone than 2.

also - as there are next to no armed criminals in the u.k., if 20 (not 3) people are running after you brandishing weapons they very definitely are police.

it's all truly horrible. and i am sorry for the guy & his family and all...

c'est la guerre. doesn't mean: oh well, such is war... but: this is a WAR we're in. and WAR is horrible. unspeakably so...

just imagine the opposite scenario:

suspect is pursued by police, is pinned down, police want to handcuff suspect, and then BANG!!! - bomb goes off, 22 dead (incl. 3 police officers having tried to overwhelm suspect with NONLETHAL force) 40 injured -- asked why the london police is not allowed to shoot suicide bombers, chief of metropolitan police says: "that's inhumane". i'll leave it up to you to imagine the reactions of the bri'ish public...

would YOU explain the "don't ever shoot" policy to the families of the bomb victims afterwards?

personally, i am glad i wasn't one of those police officers. and i do understand (& share) the sentiment of those who say that it's horrible an innocent got killed, 'cause ... well ... IT IS.

sometimes i wish the cold war back - life seems to have been so much easier then...

At Monday, July 25, 2005 3:42:00 PM, Blogger Tempest said...

AHH!! I'm not alone! Welcome to the gang, raf!

At Monday, July 25, 2005 4:19:00 PM, Blogger liminal said...

hm, if a plainclothes person runs after you with a gun...wouldn't you try to run away?

we don't even know if he knew they were police officers. i just spoke with my sister in london and that's what she said is the scandalous thing that everybody can't believe in her office.

and it's such bullshit to equate saddam being gone as actually increasing the freedom in Iraq and stopping the terrorists everywhere. obviously it's had the opposite effect. if you don't believe me, read this piece and this piece

And dont feed me the BS--that so many other idealogues have been trying to feed me--that I think it's not a good thing that that bastard saddam is gone. I've had family tortured by Hizbollah in Lebanon. I've had family injured in ways you could not even imagine in Baghdad by saddam's thugs. I've had a cousin kidnapped by jihadis (And thankfully survive) last November. And NOW my sister was almost killed by the sons of bitches in a London tube. She was CLOSE. She was so LUCKY. And if anything happened to her, I don't know what I'd do. I hate extremism!!!!!!!! Unfortunately, the extremism of the Cheney administration feeds the extremism of Bin Laden.

Can anybody spell FEEDBACK LOOP here?

To hell with extremism in all its forms. Condi said there were nuclear weapons in Iraq and scared the American people into believing the war was the right thing to do. There weren't
ANY weapons in Iraq, and now Iraq will continue to destabalize the entire region --and the world-- for the foreseeable future. And Iraqis? Well, nobody cares about what happens to them...because they have freedom and have been "liberated"...well, that's a crock of shit. My family in Iraq are not liberated. GFY


At Monday, July 25, 2005 7:32:00 PM, Blogger hummbumm said...

Easy there, I know you want to make your points, but it is not the Cheney admin, and they did not say nuclear but WMD, there is a difference. Now if you are talking feedback loop it is bin laden extremism that feeds the Bush admin not the other way. As so many love to forget, 9-11 was planned long before Bush got elected, Cole happened under clinton as did Kenya etc...
It is important to get the sequence of events here right. It is so nice to blame Bush/Cheney etc... for everything. Blah blah, sorry your family is going through tough times, we all did, it does not make you points any more valid. You are talking to lebanese here, we know war, car bombings etc.. as well as anybody.

At Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:01:00 PM, Blogger End racism said...

The timing of Condi's visit to Lebanon was predictable. Apparently now there's even an American admission that Shebaa farms are Lebanese.... I suppose the Bush administration was a bit unsettled by the Hezballah presence in the Cabinet...

Even more interesting is the timing of Sharon's visit to Paris and Geagea's release and flight to France... Call me paranoid, but I can't help but see a clear connection there.

At Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:03:00 PM, Blogger End racism said...

Hey Liminal, I agree with you. I wish all the best to your family in Iraq.

At Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:10:00 PM, Blogger Tempest said...

Naturally, Shebaa will be returned to Lebanon. That's bad? Why, because you still want lebanon to be the battle ground for the fucking palestinian cause?

That's got nothing, NOTHING, to do with us. The Palestinians have done TOO MUCH damage to Lebanon and the Lebanese. Let them deal with their own crap temselves.

Once we get shebaa back, we will have no qualm with Israel. Hezbullah will have to disarm. Simple as that. And very logical too. Enough with this shiite state within a state. Enough with the lawlesness. The resistance is neither needed, nor viable any more. We have got to move on.

Naturally, those that don't care about Lebanon, such as yourself, and your beloved hizballah, don't see it that way. They see it as losing the only card they had left. Now they can't go around killing zionists and sacrificing Lebanon for their own causes.

Call you paranoid? Nope. Paranoia is for sane people, nutcases such as yourself, my dear terrorist, don't apply.

All your base are belongs to us.

At Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:02:00 AM, Blogger End racism said...

That's bad?
Who said it's bad? I was just pointing out the irony that until now there was an outright refusal by the "Israeli"-U.S axis to even discuss the issue of "Har Dov" (not "Shebaa").

you still want lebanon to be the battle ground for the fucking palestinian cause?
Lebanon was never a battleground for the "fucking" Palestinian cause (I wonder if we're going to have another petition for removal of a post because of "bad language") until the ISRAELIS and the Maronites made it so.

The Palestinians have done TOO MUCH damage to Lebanon and the Lebanese.
The Lebanese have done the most damage to Lebanon - after "Israel", that is.

Hezbullah will have to disarm.
Why? Just because we have no territorial disputes with "Israel" doesn't mean they will love us and have no bad feelings towards us. To argue on such lines is to severely undermine the realities of the conflict. Fact is, "Israel" has killed many Lebanese in the name of "killing Palestinian terrorists", and to this day has not shown that it is ready to apologize, even as part of a peace process with Lebanon.

Naturally, those that don't care about Lebanon, such as yourself, and your beloved hizballah, don't see it that way.
A fine case of a logical fallacy.

my dear terrorist
And another one...

At Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:23:00 PM, Blogger JoseyWales said...

Lebanon was never a battleground for the "fucking" Palestinian cause

I stopped reading your post right there.

If it's humor it's not funny. If you believe it, it's pathetic and your imagination is too wild for me.

At Friday, July 29, 2005 11:11:00 AM, Blogger End racism said...

I stopped reading your post right there.
Good. Now go back to reading your stupid LF (or even better, GoTC ["Guardians of the Cedars" / Hurras el Arz]) propaganda.

At Friday, July 29, 2005 11:14:00 AM, Blogger End racism said...

By the way, allow me to recommend some reading lessons for you, because you seem to have missed the remaining part of the sentence. I guess you've read LF / GoTC propaganda so much that you've become blind to the parts of sentences that don't suit your agendas.

At Friday, July 29, 2005 11:51:00 PM, Blogger Tempest said...

I gather your father was GoTC then, huh Marsden? This is all some retroaction, some twisted oedipusian thing, eh?

Anyways, I've missed you, personally. Welcome back.

At Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:52:00 AM, Blogger End racism said...

I suggest that you wouldn't bring my dad into this.


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