Israeli Attacks

I received this by email.
The impunity of Israeli attacks against Lebanese civilian infrastructure says something about Israeli objectives.
These objectives go beyond merely pressuring the Lebanese government into "reining in" Hizbollah. They are calculated to demoralize the Lebanese people and debilitate their economy. The attacks amount to collective punishment, in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

The ferocity of the attacks reveals how the Israeli government takes advantage of political and military weakness --not with restraint and reprieve, but rather with excessive force.

Israeli anger is misplaced. If the Israeli government truly wanted to debilitate Hizbollah and put a stop to its cross-border incursions, it would destroy military installations and transport facilities in Syria and Iran.
That Israeli military forces effectively punish Lebanese civilians who seek to disarm Hizbollah, deploy the Lebanese army in the South, and negotiate a peaceful settle
Israeli officials seem to justify the punitive effect, on several grounds:
(1) "Lebanon is a sovereign state," they point out. "Thus, we don't care about Lebanon's internal situation. That's a problem for the Lebanese."
(2) "Regional power politics have nothing to do with the current crisis," they propose. "Rather, it has something to do with the 'corrupt and flawed character' of the Leb

The Lebanese --ALL Lebanese-- should remember these days when the time comes to "normalize" relations with Israel. They should reflect long and hard on who are their true friends and allies. Certainly, they cannot be found in the government halls of either Jerusalem or Damascus.

social.culture.lebanon (newsgroup)
professor of Lebanese origin at the university of Austin TX


At Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:54:00 PM, Blogger Someone from the other side said...

Your analysis fails in explaining how does the "purpose" of destroying the Lebanese economy serves Israel.

As for your claim that Israel should attack the Alawi regime in Syria - I totally agree.
Why doesn't it happen? I'm not sure, but probably Israel has made its pros & cons list and decided against, though many Israelies would like to see that.
I personally think that the Assad palace in Ladkia (or however you write it in English is a good start). Iran also threatens Israel in case they attack Syria (which says something on how much does Iran care about Lebanon).
But in any case, from the point of view of a Lebanese, that claim of yours is just.

As for attacking Iran, I'm afraid that's beyond Israel's strength. Iran is too far and too big for Israel. se la vi.

As for normalization.
Fine, don't normalize anything. Just take control over your border and keep it quiet.

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:05:00 PM, Blogger mikealpha said...

I am not Lebanese or Israeli so I dont know the answer to the following 2 questions:
1) How many were killed or wounded in the Lebanese civil war and how much property damage was there ?
2) Could the Lebanese government and army (or that part of the government and army which is not sympathtic to hezballah or Syria)
have disarmed hezballah (missiles inclded) and moved them away from the southern border without another civil war ?

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:15:00 PM, Blogger Philip I said...

From Philip I [viarecta.blogspot.com]

If you think the Israelis bomb civillians, roads and bridges for no other reason than spite and vengence, think again.

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:20:00 PM, Blogger Mo said...

As for your claim that Israel should attack the Alawi regime in Syria - I totally agree.

Now this is bitchy
who said anything about the alawi regime?

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:20:00 PM, Blogger Disreputable Organ said...

That's quite a heated statement, but I don't know if there is a question anywhere in there. However, I think I see one lurking in the background.

You state, "The Lebanese --ALL Lebanese-- should remember these days when the time comes to "normalize" relations with Israel. They should reflect long and hard on who are their true friends and allies. Certainly, they cannot be found in the government halls of either Jerusalem or Damascus."

Could you compare and contrast the treatment of Lebanon by the two governments, respectively. Is the actions of one any better or worse than the actions of the other?

What is the Lebanese government's formal relation with Israel? Has it ever recognized Israel? What should it expect from Israel?

Same questions as to Syria.

Should Lebanon treat Israel and Syria differently, and if so, why?

Thanks for any comments.

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:27:00 PM, Blogger Solomon2 said...

1) Lebanon's militias were ordered disbanded by the U.N. years ago. As Hizb is a party in the government coalition, Lebanon itself bears a measure of responsibility. You can't expect to allow Hizb to continue its repeated attacks with impunity.

2) I am not a lawyer, but it doesn't appear that Lebanese civilians qualify as "protected persons" under the Fourth Geneva Convention, so its clause about "collective punishment" may not apply. "Protected persons" are civilians under the thumb of an "occupying power" (see Article 4).

3) Yes, Lebanese should reflect carefully on relations with Israel. But not too long, I think.

At Sunday, July 16, 2006 7:40:00 PM, Blogger BeefStu said...

Have you apologists always been this naive or is this simply taqiyya? Civilians who allow terrorists to live and operate in their midst (and you know there are probably plenty who provide a lot more than mere tacit support) cease to be "innocent civilians." They are complicit in the acts of the Islamist thugs who find safe haven among them. This is exactly what happens with the "peace-loving" Palis, as well.

Guess what? Israel and the rest of the civilized world are tired of playing those games. If the middle eastern "street" can't be bothered to pull their thumbs out of their collective asses long enough to stop the blame game against Israel, give up the perpetual victimhood, and clean up these infestations of barbarians stuck in the 7th-century, then you have no right to whinge when the adults have to come in and do it for you.

At Monday, July 17, 2006 8:56:00 AM, Blogger Nightstudies said...

There are military reasons for what Israel is doing, they want to prevent Hezbollah from being resupplied and prevent them from being able to move their weaponry.

I'm no expert to know whether they do actually works, but people are saying that they should have limited their attacks to being closer to Hezbollah.

Look out for people who say that Israelis have only evil reasons - that's just the usual propaganda and lies. Listening to those fools are how you got into this mess in the first place.

At Monday, July 17, 2006 8:58:00 AM, Blogger Nightstudies said...

Your analysis fails in explaining how does the "purpose" of destroying the Lebanese economy serves Israel.

Exactly. It's fortunate that propagandists are often too stupid to make their arguements logical. It makes the lies easy to spot.

At Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:26:00 PM, Blogger NovaRealm said...

Many seem to conveniently forget that Israel is an occupying force whithin Palestinian, Lebanese, and Syrian territories. International law and UN resolutions confirm this status, with the only countries who express any doubt over this fact being the US, UK and Israel itself. The Israeli government and those supporters of the military Zionist movement wish to selectively draw attention UN resolution 1559 as justification for its actions in the last two weeks, this in the face of literally hundreds of resolutions passed against Israel since its inception.
Regardless of the beaurocracy involved, the act of capturing soldiers of an occupying force is not tantamount to terrorism, neither are Hezbollah rocket attacks mounted in retaliation to the Israeli strikes which preceded them. Both sides must cease attacks, the violence must end, and Israel must return the occupied Golan Heights to Syria. The appropriate division of territory and establishment of a separate Palestinian state must be pursued diplomatically, to deny this and recourse to perpetual military action is an act of blindness.

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