18.7.06

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I was informed from my family that israeli today and yesterday bombed trucks full of medicine aids and food on roads of zahleh (israeli media likes to call it christian village) and jbeil (refer to zahleh remark) and various places in lebanon.

Isrealis supporting attacks commenting in this forum will say that these trucks are full of weopans for hizballah as usual. and hizballah members are hiding in jbeil and zahleh.

39 Comments:

At Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:22:00 PM, Blogger SC said...

Some Jihad-Monkey in a turban on al Manar tv says this and he believes it.

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:38:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

sc..
it was not on almanar.
till now we r not using the manar as source here so that u don't talk.. so..
believe it or not.. it happened
refer to pics of dead by forbidden wepeans.

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:45:00 PM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

Sc,

you know i am on the outside of this watching and as friends are there helping, supporting aiding.

Its this kind of riduculous school boy antics that just blows my mind.

Its astuonds me that you rely on name calling to get your point across.

Why are you posting?
If you disagree great come up with something to say that is actually worth reading.

While its easy to armchair quarterback this site its also truly is a place where real voices can be heard and actually be taken seriously and the generalizations and rehtoric on both sides makes me nautious.

YOU know i may be nieve in some areas of life, some could mary sunshine but to read some the things that as people we really in effect are no better than terrorist. Words damage people maybe its not a physical deal but it does.
You tell somone enough somthing negative and they believe it...

I cannot imagine what it must be like for families and lives to be do disrupted on both sides.

THis forum while its good to hear about the reality of death, it really could be a place where diologue happens between Isrealis and Lebonese.

you have more in commen then you even realize. maybe its easy to say coming from AMERICA ...where were the puppet masters as so many on this site say but its not all true. So many people every day from all over the world are in our in shcools having debates on these issues and namecalling doesnt come up ...creative solutions by creative minds are possible.

you do not have to belong to a faction of particular group to produce anything you have only to be open to others and truly show respect, that is understanding the definition of the word as well.

RESPECT

I really appreciate the site, i have quite a know some teacher freinds staying in beruit to help the elderly and displaced.

call me mary sunshine but i really think you both could do better as men toward eachother.

Blessings and peace
Enriqueta

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:49:00 PM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Israel has asked that trucks in Lebanon drive around without covers so the drones can detect rocket trucks. I believe it's a reasonable request. I am sure the missiles arrive from Baal-beck to the launch sites in the south on camels.
Or maybe the righteous hizballah doesn't fire on our cities?

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:00:00 AM, Blogger OneJordan said...

everyone lnows i am no hizbulla lover. when i saw on cnn the "drugs tracks" explode like maniacs, it make you think again about which drugs you take.

maybe it was viagra trucks. such series of explodes i have never seen before in any medicine i took...


and now you know it clear - syria is sending weapons and arming the hizbula. if u thought the assad regime was over in lubnan, here is the truth. assad still thinks he owns lebanon and he destroies your country. take care and stop the hizbulla. world peace.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:13:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

"on camels."
looooooooooooooooooooooool

this animal doesn't exist anymore..
lol
here comes the kliche of arabs..
heheehhe

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:16:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

scientific data:

baalbeck? ok.. exclude zahleh..

how about jbeil??

it is on the north coast..
go look to lebanon's map..

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:30:00 AM, Blogger Shai said...

Two things:

1. Ten years from now, maximum 15, Lebanon will have peace with Israel and all you self-pitying-israeli-haters will be visiting Tel-Aviv and enjoying our land.

2. Two years from now you will look back and understand that what Israel does today, dispite the many victims, was for the good of Lebanon.

I'll bet ye all a falafel that both these statements are true.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:51:00 AM, Blogger otinkyaaf said...

To the Israel supporters on this forum who have made lightness of death-

If I turn off my emotions and look at things from a purely rational point of view, where lives are just numbers, I can understand your point of view and how you chose arrived at it, and can understand what seems to be your strategy. I will respect your opinion, even if I don't agree that this is the best solution.

But if you mock the death of Lebanese civilians caught in this, on a Lebanese forum, then you display a level of hate and cruelty that is humanity at lowest rotten sociopathic levels. Shame on you.

Do the Lebanese here mock the deaths of Israeli civilians?

Biting your tongue here is a Mitzvah and you know it.

To the other Israel supporters- With no desire to give blame to anyone, I wish for a real solution to this mess and I wish for peace, prosperity, and success to the State of Israel as much as I do to the Lebanese Republic.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:52:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Hilal chouman
Replace the word camel with donkey and Baal-Beck with another hizballah warehouse in the north. Now please answer my original question.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:02:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

u excpect me to answer somebody tells that there are camels in lebanon?
and wait here is another mistake..
u don't get it.
there are no hizballah warhoses in north near jbeil
lol
and for your infromation jbeil is BYBLOS.
maybe the picture is more clered noe for u.

ps.
hizballah fired on cities when u began attacking civilians.
now u fired on cities when hizballah kidnapped SOLDIERS.
Repeat. SOLDIERS.
don't forget that..

a questio:
r u sitting browsing LBF digh and night?
thanks for beig so loyal
:)

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:19:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

i have some good news shia,
1. in 15 years Palestinians will form %40 of population in so-called the state of Israel, then there will be no Israel no more, there will be one state called Palestine where humans (regardless of religion) live in peace, just like the old days.

2. you are entitled to live in your own fantasy world but don't let that be your only world.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:28:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Hlal chouman
You just don't get it.
Camel, donkey, Lama , porcupine I was sarcastic. My point is that the Hizballah uses trucks.
Right now hizballah is firing on our cities so trucks become military targets. If you want us to know the trucks are truely civilian remove the covers so the drones can inspect. eovMaybe Hizballah trucks are painted bright yellow so we won't confuse them with civilian trucks (sarcasm). Maybe are you going to say the Hizbalah doesn't use warehouses, thier rockets appear from thin air on the launchers. (sarcasm if you missed this one).
two things:
1)When the hizbalah attacked they captured 2 soldiers, killed 3 more AND wounded several civilians in diversionay attacks.
2) Israel is not the security zone. When israeli soldiers where in Lebanon you could attack them. when you cross the border into Israel to attack soldiers, civilians or sheep (sarcasm) this has a name: WAR if you don't understand that, you have big problems (and what do you know, you have a big problem now).

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:36:00 AM, Blogger Shai said...

elfool,

1. Never underestimate fantasies.

2. You just lost a falafel.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:41:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

Well, how about holding a Lebanese prisoner, and holding on an occupied bit of land?

Can you argue that Hezbollah would have had ground to exist if Israel had withdrawn from all the Lebanese territories and release all Lebanese prisoners in 2000?

Remember hezbuallah is an organization that gained all it’s got from resisting the Israeli ILLEGAL occupation +oppression + (still on going intervention).

If Israel didn’t want to get attacked from the borders from the north, make friends with them not enemies, sending tens of thousands of Palestinians refugees was not a good start and from there on really Israeli friends making techniques just got more disgusting

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

I agree on 1, and regarding 2 I have lost much more than a falafel and that has not left a good impression on me

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:55:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Elfool let me ask you a question I have asked here before but didn't get an answer. There are 3 lebanese prisoners in Israel. They were all tried and convicted. The most important of them and a "hero of the resistance" samir Kuntar. He has murdered an entire family in cold blood including bashing the skull of a little girl with his rifle. why the hell do you want such a man to be free??
Also Israel belives the farms are just an excuse. hisballah gets it's money, weapons and orders from Tehran and will never stop fighting Israel,

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:11:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

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At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:13:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

Who gives a fuck?
Israel has occupied land from all surrounding countries and their soldiers commented all sorts of crimes, I see none of them serving a life sentence in Israeli prisons? So don’t talk and ague in the name of justice,
What did Israel expect as a response to their friends making technique, the resistance that you don’t like brought back %99 of the “once” occupied lands, and defeated a brutal occupation.

Even so, I seem to recall that samir kuntar had a partner? Do you know what happened to him?

The farms excuse or not that’s arguable?
But my question was and stand as: why give Hezbollah an excuse and a valid, occupied territory that need to be freed ?

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:24:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

I give a fuck.
If you can prove a specific Israeli
soldier has commited warcrimes please sue him in a court of law Israeli or other wise (not iranian or the like).
I think Kuntar's side kick should have remained in Jail.
The point with the farms is not wether they are excuse or not but the fact that the UN has decided they are not Lebanse. who knows Maybe the day after Nasaralah will find an ottoman deed to Naharia and so on and so forth. I am sure they want Tel-aviv in the end but I Don't recall that Hizballah is in charge of charting my border.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:35:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

How pathetic, you think by just saying that if I have a prove, to bring it out you are proving a point? Well let me tell you- you are wrong very wrong, I have witnessed a lot, and you have to tell us if we can rely on the UN’s judgment of not?
If we can then were does Israel stand from resolutions like 194, 448, 242 and many others?

Why is samir not in a Lebanese prison then?

By the way, if you are to deny facts, the discussion will be meaningless!
And the baggiest fact is Israeli soldiers have committed and are committing crimes daily!

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:38:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

Plus I can’t recall the UN ruling the farms as Israeli?
Plus I don’t accept you claim that even without the farms Hezbollah would have done the same? Why are they using the farms are an excuse then if there is no need for one ?

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:51:00 AM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

E fool,=) oh guys!

elFool said...
i have some good news shia,
1. in 15 years Palestinians will form %40 of population in so-called the state of Israel, then there will be no Israel no more, there will be one state called Palestine where humans (regardless of religion) live in peace, just like the old days.

2. you are entitled to live in your own fantasy world but don't let that be your only world.
~~~~~
Efool:
its good that you gave yourself the title!
to bad you lost the falafel. =(


YOu know i love about this site all you ancient guys still kicking sand in eachothers faces!

Its quite a visual.

funny about the acient cultures you would think you would actually have some pride and leadership but to step out side of the rhetoic box.

here is a question?

do you believe the story of Abraham?

i do=)

here is my mary sunshine version!
short and sweet!

one of the things i take from the story is that hagar who was sent out into the desert with her very young son got shafted, sorry Isreal but she did!

while sara was hooked up to a sweet deal of staying with Abraham.
Hagar's son would be without a father. Its no wonder the culture can be so angry somtimes, bibically you got a raw deal!

Yet Somthing great about the story No blessing was lost, God still blessed Hagar and her son and they were still counted blessed in the site of God.

At the same time reality his sons were brothers. Ie. Jews/Muslims...we will throw christians in too i do not want to be left out =)

Now I a am no theolgian, but i have quite a makeup in my life.

For full disclosure My grandparets were Sepheridic jews and my ex boyfriend of 4 years was muslim, it just didnt work out but i have respect for him.
Now I am now a christian that in reality cannot be a christian in several Muslim countries.

Why, what is it about our faiths that men are drawn to hate so deeply?

Its crazy the how similiar our families of faith are.

You speak as though a jew should be discounted less than you.

As jews have done the same in actions, historically its happend.

Just like the crusaders and those on line are saying about Bush.

I imagine God somtimes thowing up his hands and saying whats up with these guys.

They just do not get it!

yes you come from different tents, and this great ancient culture.

no solution, just thinking outloud.

Whats your version of the Abraham story?


anyways, It facinating, how this site is only a microcosim of what is happening around the bunkers of Isreal and Lebenon, and the world.

I really hope you have a great day efool despite your sour attitude!
Peace
Enriqueta

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:53:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

242 calls for a retreat from a PART of the teritories for peace. If you want to split legal hairs even going back 1 meter fulifils 242. BTW we didn't get the peace part, ask the HAMAS.
I don't recall you did 1559 so don't lecture me about UN resolutions. I have talked about borders not resolutions
If you think that hizballah has no designs on Israel than please ask yourself If all lebanese have been released from Syrian prisons. does the Hizballah routinly kidnap Syrians to save them??
Intrigues me how can you say that you don't give a fuck about what Kuntar did and than complain about Israeli war crimes?? According to your logic I shouldn't give a fuck and in the next sortie the fighter jets will use cluster-bombs and FAE. The death toll wouldn't be 200 but 200,000. If we are really such war criminals who will save you. If I will use he same moral standard of your glorieus hizballah with my modern weapons you wouldn' be alive so e could talk now.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:57:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

I don’t have a sour attitude! I love all people
I don’t give a fuck about religion
My ideas for the future is superior when compared to yours
Is that clear ?

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:59:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

Don’t take my words out of context please, go back and read what I said

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:02:00 AM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

elFool said...
I don’t have a sour attitude! I love all people
I don’t give a fuck about religion
My ideas for the future is superior when compared to yours
Is that clear ?

do you really love all people.
So what are the chances you would you then ask shia to dinner somtime and have him to your house to meet the family maybe kick around the football?

could you imagine that in your superior future?



Blessings,
Enriqueta

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:12:00 AM, Blogger SC said...

elfool, God-willing cancer will strike you dead in every part of your filthy body.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:12:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

About the other UN resolutions you have named I don't remmber the numbers. If you could name the resolutions I will be much obliged. I do feel hat I have raised a point that you should answer.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:13:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

SC
I don't agree with elfool bu please be polite.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:23:00 AM, Blogger elFool said...

Enriqueta

of course i can, y not?

i have to go to be coz i have work in the morning

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:24:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Efool where are you??
We still have some items to discuss.
I am sory if I became a bit agitated.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:24:00 AM, Blogger Shmulik said...

Good night Efool

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:41:00 AM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

Sc,

your a drag and why do you not write out some constructive critisim...
good night from America, hope you all staying safe, btw..i got a nice response from a post from a lebanese, Isrealies, I would love your take on it, also..describe a great street in your city.

also, for all please do not have me come into my office tommorow and see some hatefull things on my page!!

Respectfully to all!
blessings,
Enriqueta

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:48:00 AM, Blogger mikizzz said...

everyone here says that they have an image of the future...what do you see happening...you all say that your perspective is better than the next guy...do any of you really believe that bombing the shit out of the other person, and raping their mothers and daughters(and that happens on both sides in war which is fucked up)...i want the bombing to stop...i also want to know if someone really thinks that they can get rid of a whole state

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:56:00 AM, Blogger Marwa said...

Shai.

Take your falafel...

And stick it where the sun don't shine.

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:18:00 AM, Blogger dana said...

let me tell u a story- try to imagenyour self:
PART A

Let’s say that the relations between France and its
neighbors are not very good.
Let’s also say that the Belgium government
doesn’t recognize France’s right to exist.
Let’s also say that every day, someone from
Belgium fires 5 rockets to the city of Lille,
and 70% of the Belgiums are happy about it,
and their government is doing nothing to stop it.
Now let’s assume that a group of people from Belgium crosses the border, attacks French troops, kills some of them and captures a French soldier and brings it back to Belgium.
What should France do?

PART B

In the mean time, there is a party in the Italian parliament that has its own army and does whatever it wants. The Italian government says or does nothing to this party.
Let’s say that in a certain morning this party decides to start bombing the French Riviera.
While doing that, they also penetrate the French-Italian border, attacks a border patrol, kills 3 French soldiers and captures another 2.
Again, in this case,
What should France do?


For those who are not familiar with the current events – this is the exact situation Israel is standing against these days, and only retaliates to them.
Would you negotiate for these soldiers knowing you’re legitimizing the next kidnappings? Will your government allow these attacks on its own land?

Hopefully, the saner voices will rise and the fighting will stop. The majority in Israel wants peace and is willing to give up land for it, but not without the insurance of the safety of the citizens. Would you?

 
At Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:45:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

looking at the time of comments:
it seems that israeli guys supporting attacks gets so active during night.
keep on browsing this site day and night.

 
At Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:16:00 AM, Blogger Loubnani said...

To shmulik

You wrote: "Elfool let me ask you a question I have asked here before but didn't get an answer. There are 3 lebanese prisoners in Israel. They were all tried and convicted. The most important of them and a "hero of the resistance" samir Kuntar. He has murdered an entire family in cold blood including bashing the skull of a little girl with his rifle. why the hell do you want such a man to be free??"

Well my answer is : how the hell did the israelis bring Sharon to the head of the government ? Sharon is a convicted war criminal (convicted by whom? by Humanity !). So let me put it straight: Samir was convicted by the state of Israel as a criminal but nevertheless we want him free, the same way Sharon is a war criminal but also a former prime minister of Israel. It is as simple as that !

 

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