17.10.06

Respect


This is a woman who does not fear to declare her political opinions. This woman is to be respected whether we agree with her or not.

36 Comments:

At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:26:00 AM, Blogger SC said...

She is to be respected?

She should die of cancer like every other hizbullah supporter out there.

She's so courageous supporting terrorism in a country that supports terrorism. She would be courageous if she stood up to Nasrallah and his gang of savages.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:40:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...

This piece of propaganda (masquarading as a song) is pretty moronic and I do not find her courageous at all. She's hot, though and it's refreshing to see that Lebanese women can sing on TV without looking like they stumbled out of the whorehouse.
However, I'll be happy to be part of a Lebanon that would also allow a song with the opposite message to be aired on TV.
Freedom of speech for all, and this song too.

and, SC: nobody deserves to die of Cancer and certainly not the people who, unfortunately, have nowhere/noone else to turn to but the Hezb.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:15:00 AM, Blogger hillz said...

callipge,

What I meant by julia being courageous is that she didn't go for a general talk that angers no body. She was courageous to declare her political opinion, a thing many other artists try to avoid.

And even if they do, they prepare a song in half an hour and accompany it with a simple copy-paste videoclip.

Now plz what's moronic about it? Let me check if she killed any body "by mistake" in the videoclip.

About the opposite kind of songs, I guess that you know that Lebanon is far beyond being a one-opinion-country, and the last two years carried much better examples on propaganda than this song which talks about just cases. ;)

Your remark about "being Hot with out being a whore" is not in place when coming to a death-rebirth content video, don't you agree?

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:45:00 AM, Blogger Mirvat said...

i think it's sweet and courageous. bravo julia. we don't expect less from her.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:11:00 AM, Blogger Rhiannon said...

I loved it! Absolutely well done! Thank YOU, Hilal, I will pass it around.

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As for whorehouses, I believe they make the best of them in Texas. Yep! when it comes to whorehouses and whores, nothing compares to good ole USA!

And I'm not just talking about the ladies of the night! Oh no (laughter), I'm talking about the politicians and the media of the USA - when it comes to whoring, NOBODY does it better!

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:31:00 AM, Blogger Mirvat said...

rhiannone, i think callipyge is lebanese herself. so she's just being critical of something that we're all critical of but you're right, it's not just lebanese singers, it's singers everywhere. the taste level has gone down and we all know this is the product of globalizing lack of morals that originated in the US.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:09:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...

I was just happy to see a Lebanese artist who didn't have 3 tons of makeup all over her face and didn't seem to spend half the year in a plastic surgeon's office.
If you think I called that particular woman a whore, you need to go back to school and relearn English.

Hilal: I was equally sickened by all the "hariri-mourning" songs, trust me. People made Hariri their "mr Lebanon". Now they're making Nasrallah another "Mr Lebanon". I just want to see people stop worshipping their leaders and start caring about getting themselves out of this mess without counting on "divine victories". I want a "party of the Lebanese people". Not a party of Western-Alliance or a party of God.

Rhiannon: Agreed. Nothing gets filthier than US media. However, if you were trying to slap me on the fingers with that witty come-back, I'm not a Texan nor an American. I'm Lebanese and this is why I allow myself to speak my mind on things I care about. And the first one who will whine and say "buuuut you doooon't live there anyyyyymore, so you forgooooot what it's liiiiiike" can go choke on their falafel.

Have a nice day everyone!

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:18:00 AM, Blogger hashem said...

I loved it....bravo Julia....so courageous, and so Julia...who proved to be someone who stand by her principles no matter how many change, no matter how the world change, and not to be afraid to show it based on narrow popularity given that many may not share her opinion...
this is the definition of an artist who is loyal and honest.
thanx Hilal for sharing it.
I love you Julia.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:22:00 AM, Blogger aroundtheclock24_7 said...

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At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:25:00 AM, Blogger aroundtheclock24_7 said...

I was in the launching of her videoclip last Friday night here in Dubai. They had a big Oumsiyeih shi3riyeih for signing the latest book of Ghassan Mattar which he dedicates to Hizbollah and all the money from the sellings will be donated to the Martyrs' families. So Julia and her husband (whom i've known since 1997) were there, and she was going around talking to people and showing her true feelings of sorrow for what happenned in Lebanon. She is full of feelings and sooooooo down to earth.

I've worked backstage with her a couple of times and she is very respectful of everyone and everything, but she does tend to keep quite a lot :P

More important of her being a great singer, is that she is one of the best MOMs in the world :D

Thanx Hilal for sharing the clip online :)

ciao

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:45:00 AM, Blogger hashem said...

I second ATC.
I got to know Julia in person back in 2001, and she's so sweet, and down to earth. I have to add that she's very proud to be jnoubeyyeh...:)

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:45:00 AM, Blogger Mirvat said...

who needs to relearn his english exactly? i hope this wasn't addressed to me! if anything i was defending your point.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:04:00 AM, Blogger callipyge said...

Mirvat: of course it wasn't addressed to you. And I really appreciated you coming to my defense, even if I didn't express that earlier.
sending good karma waves your way :-)

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:46:00 PM, Blogger arch.memory said...

I love Julia! The video is fresh, and I like her new somber image. Her voice is getting warmer and more lovely, but I have to say the lyrics sounded a bit packaged and trite. Nevertheless, I've been wondering when somebody will come up with the songs of this war, and it's good to see the first (though hopefully not the last) of them. I don't think this will be the definitive one, but it's a good attempt.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:49:00 PM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

Rhiannon said...

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As for whorehouses, I believe they make the best of them in Texas. Yep! when it comes to whorehouses and whores, nothing compares to good ole USA!

And I'm not just talking about the ladies of the night! Oh no (laughter), I'm talking about the politicians and the media of the USA - when it comes to whoring, NOBODY does it better


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Hey canada, nice try.

why don't you just make sure you watch your borders and take care of your own internal issues.

YOu have plenty of them, I would be mindful of the stones you throw while you enjoy our luxuries.

As for the "whores" of America, your circle of critism is boring!

It speaks directly to your jealousy we can beat you in hockey =)

Peace
Completly Proud to be An American even if we suck somtimes, I take it over O' Canada anyday...;)!
E

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:58:00 PM, Blogger Jamal said...

arch-

"but I have to say the lyrics sounded a bit packaged and trite."

yeah, Nasrallah should stick to his day job.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:00:00 PM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

M,

"product of globalizing lack of morals that originated in the US."

Yes Right M, Lack of Morals that orignated in America. Are you serious. Dude, nice try but exporting friends to wrap themselves up and be bombs is being exported quite nicely out your neighborhood. I mean you have representation in your govenrment that sanctions it. Please spare me the trite explanation of MORALs when you have a country that prides itself along side common thugs.




Whatever you think our Policies are that was laughable to state.

Give me a break, find somone else to blame for your internal issues.

Here is your contiual problem M, stop blaming everyone else and take personal resposability for what you have in front of you i might actually believe half of what you say.

Your speaking on "morals" because the Lebonese have a corner market on them...nice try...
You made laugh outloud.

Peace
E

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:07:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

OH..
LOOK Who is back :P

Guys, If anyone can translate the lyrics, I'll be grateful. Maybe we have to translate the lyrics with the video ;)

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:36:00 PM, Blogger Lebanon Lime said...

She put up some weight didn't she!
I have to say that I was disappointed with the lyrics. I also would disagree with the projected images of children growing up to be soldiers. What struck me most in the video is that it is not directed to hizbullah per se. Don't you think? Is this the first phase of integration? I surely hope so.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:56:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

Quick notes:
- The lyrics are taken from the letter that hassan nasrallah sent to the resistance men in responce to another letter sent by them to him.There was a time during the july war where there was lack of communication between some parts of HA due to security reasons.
- Both letters were published in newspapers during the july war.
- Tons of "take-away-patriotic" songs has been released till know. All are found on the arabic music sites. I guess this song is one of the few that didn't fall in the take away aspect. /i predict that it will live much much longer not only in Lebanon but in the arab countries as well. (if they didn't ban it from air)
- The song will be part of a series of concerts for the benefits of the martyrs and wounded of july war.
- On children turning to soldiers: the image is a bit vague, it's not clear if they are the army men or the resistance fighters; but in both cases there is no shame about children growing to defend their land from israeli terror and daily attacks.

 
At Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:12:00 PM, Blogger Mirvat said...

i always want to answer you E but i have no idea what you say! your composition confuses me. maybe next time. meanwhile remember Apokraphyte's advice to you?

 
At Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:46:00 AM, Blogger Rhiannon said...

Oh my, the Canadian boots are stomping on tender USA toes. Ouchy ouch!

Good!

For the life of me, I have no idea why you would bring up hockey, borders and internal issues of Canada.

You should be so happy that stupid Canada is supporting you with your evil "wars", dear. So what's the problem?

Really, who's the jealous one here?

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calli, yeah sure, I'll learn to speak and read english and you will learn some manners.

Peace!

and Have a nice day!

 
At Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:57:00 PM, Blogger Mirvat said...

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At Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:13:00 PM, Blogger Mirvat said...

and E., until your country stops bombing and torturing people and stops funding countries that do the same, i say shut your mouth on morality!

 
At Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:43:00 PM, Blogger arch.memory said...

Hilal, I though Jamal was kidding at first! But now I'll have to agree with him: Nasrallah should leave such duties to those who do them better, like Mahmoud Darwish... While it's a very original concept, to sing an authentic (political) letter, and the letter does lend itself well to song, I don't think it makes a good one. I imagine it would be more powerful as a speech. In any case, I still don't think it has the makings of a classic, such as her earlier work, or some of Marcel Khalifeh or Majida el-Roumi's earlier stuff. But only time will tell...

And Lebanon Lime, I agree with you, for someone who doesn't know the history of the song, it is certainly not explicitly about Hezballah (neither the lyrics nor the video). But I think it is a bit too hopeful to think that this is the beginning of integration...

 
At Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:07:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

Arch,
I was just stating some notes to foreign readers no more or to whom who didn't follow the project from the beginning.
Now the back-bone of the song was the letter but it was adapted to be a sort of a poem by Ghassan Matar.
For the lyrics, I agree that it depends on the listeners' and readers' taste.
And I guess this raises again the issue of re-creating a neo-classical patriotic pieces. Such things disappeared after the end of the civil war, maybe because of the fall of ideologies that happened after 1991 and rise of the religious trends supported as it is known already by uncle Sam and other “moderate” countries.

 
At Friday, October 20, 2006 4:39:00 PM, Blogger BOB said...

"This is a woman who does not fear to declare her political opinions. This woman is to be respected whether we agree with her or not."

Funny that I never heard you saying that about Moona Fayad! Or are you only referring to artists? Although you said woman and I consider writing a form of art...

Or maybe you have some double standards...

Peace

 
At Friday, October 20, 2006 8:56:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

yeh, I should have wrote artist instead of woman, and I guess if you read the comments above you would understood what I meant.

yalla i3adeh:

"
What I meant by julia being courageous is that she didn't go for a general talk that angers no body. She was courageous to declare her political opinion, a thing many other artists try to avoid.

And even if they do, they prepare a song in half an hour and accompany it with a simple copy-paste videoclip.
"

as for mona fayyad, what's courageous about her article? All the newspapers are filled with such articles. Or is it just being a "shiite" and saying such things? because if so, you can find alot of "shiite" journalists complaining about HA maybe more than fayyad did, starting "14 march shiite" 3oqab saqr.. or is it because she is a woman? Walla 7ayyartneh ya bob.

 
At Friday, October 20, 2006 9:19:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

* written

 
At Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:38:00 AM, Blogger BOB said...

The same back to you
"as for julia, what's courageous about her song? All the radios are brodcasting such songs...

double standards...

peace

 
At Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:10:00 PM, Blogger Jean said...

I think we lebanese should start thinking more with our heads and much less with our hearts..

Julia used a smart combination in her song. Lyrics directed to the heart, no the brains (my beloved etc..) and children hand in hand with fighters walking among trees and land of the south.

I could make the devil look like an angel. Or hitler like a saint.

I don't see any courage in this. I see manipulation.
Why are we so keen on thinking exclusively with our hearts ? Brains exist for a reason. We are educated people, we should be able to do so.

I would have loved that julia made a similar song to our Lebanese Army Soldiers, who are in these seconds, face to face with the ennemy. These are and remain my only heroes.

Jean
--
Veritas Vos Liberabit, Veritas Lux Mea..

 
At Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:57:00 PM, Blogger hillz said...

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At Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:18:00 PM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

M,
"and E., until your country stops bombing and torturing people and stops funding countries that do the same, i say shut your mouth on morality"

I thought why bother but Once again, I find you to be rude, you lack any grace from wherever you claim to be from. Individuals without care and respect continue to breakdown any real prospect of lasting peace.



You telling me to shut my mouth is unexceptable, yet not surprising.

I would if i could tell you to your face, My intention was to point out how can a individuals for real change, real peace get through to somone like Canada. Blanket suppostions..I blanketed back with a humor at the end.


I was not speaking as a moral authority but saying I am an American do not crap on me and think its ok. Period.

You do not have conversations on this forum in a vaccuem.

I do not doubt America has graven issues, I do not doubt America has a great deal to change. Let us be clear the whole world is need of a tune up. Most people in America see a change is neccesary.

At this point to even acknowledge your disdain is pointless.

Once again, you show you cannot rationally look upon somthing and see both sides. I greive for loss of life in the world. I grieve for loss of care of indivuals and the potentional of there lives whether they are in America or walking down a street in Lebbonon.

I grieve, I pray and then I get up and work every day to Postively influence my friends, strangers and world to be a place of love, in America.

It is so easy to destroy, the challenge is to help to build up.

I hope you get there.

Peace
Enriqueta

 
At Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:32:00 AM, Blogger Rhiannon said...

"I find you to be rude, you lack any grace from wherever you claim to be from. Individuals without care and respect continue to breakdown any real prospect of lasting peace."

Oh for chrissakes! Go and read your bloody post again! Who is the rude one here? YOU!

Humor? What you humor are you talking about? I only saw abrasiveness.


"At this point to even acknowledge your disdain is pointless."


So? Why did you bring it up here then? Why bother at all?


"Once again, you show you cannot rationally look upon somthing and see both sides."

And YOU can? Again, go back and read your rude, snotty little post again.



"I grieve, I pray and then I get up and work every day to Postively influence my friends, strangers and world to be a place of love, in America."

Well now you're just getting silly and wishy-washy on us. Please, go back to being abrasive. At least you were HONEST.

By the way, I find it ridiculous when someone says nasty stuff and sandwiches this ugly behavior with words like "pray", "love", and "positively infuence". And then to round it all off they close with 'peace'.

Please. Go back to your hockey game.

 
At Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:00:00 PM, Blogger Enriqueta said...

Rhiannon ...

your talking about rude, how does referring to my country as whores, the Texas comments constitute constructive dilougue. It doesnt.
I was not being abrasive but I was not going to sit back and let you slide in with slap on my country because with all its faults I still live here and am a part of the larger dioluge.

Yes of course we have issues, ie why i said look at your own. Yet all its issues we should be able to have constructive conversations. Not tell eachother to shut up.

Your comment to me was like saying everyone in the ME is a terroist..give me a break.


As for the post it was not to you.

peace, seriously at some point.
E

 
At Friday, October 27, 2006 12:15:00 AM, Blogger Rhiannon said...

"Yes Right M, Lack of Morals that orignated in America. Are you serious. Dude, nice try but exporting friends to wrap themselves up and be bombs is being exported quite nicely out your neighborhood. I mean you have representation in your govenrment that sanctions it. Please spare me the trite explanation of MORALs when you have a country that prides itself along side common thugs."

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Your posts are to ME as I have an issue to what is happening in Palestine and Lebanon - so it makes no difference to me that you posted to Mirvat specifically.

Wrap themselves up and be bombs?

Well as far as 'internal issues' go in the USA, you can say they have a hand in the making of those human bombs from Palestine.

And it's costing your country 5 billion plus annually (which goes to israel) to create those human bombs from Palestine.

Have you any idea what is being done in your name and with your dollars in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan?

The humiliations, intimidations, murders, massacres, house demolitions, checkpoints, and so much more that go on in the West Bank and Gaza Strip ALONE are DIRECTLY LINKED to your government.

The government of 'israel' leaves no room for hope of peace and livelihood for Palestinians.

It's easy to talk from the top of your head in the comfort of your own country when you really don't know how other people thousands of miles away from you are trying to desperately hold on to their identity and lives.

You can't speak forthe intentions a suicide bomber, you don't know his/her history.

But your dollars are helping in creating their despair whether you realize it or not.

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As for Canadian Issues, I am aware of what is happening here. There are idiots here who are for the stupid invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and there are the decent ones who are against it.

Harper is losing in popularity-especially in Montreal. But that means nothing because he has formed strong bonds with his neocon gang Bush and Co. So we are stuck with him.

I don't know why you're bringing up borders. Are you saying that Canada is responsible for 9/11?

Utter nonsense.

 

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