Explosion in Beirut
Updates:
Explosion occured at 12:35 am.
6 injured.
The car was a Datsun, License plate 230463.
Members of the Syrian Baath Party branch were spotted loitering around the area earlier in the day.
The government is already arresting people. This spells trouble. They are going to blame it on somebody from the opposition, that's what my gut tells me.
I'll be getting a link to the pics in the next few minutes. A link to the pics is on my blog.
posted by Anonymous @ 2:19 AM
9 Comments:
I think we as bloggers also should be really careful about pointing fingers now as well since it really is a sensitive time that can lead to danger.
I agree we shouldn't point fingers. And I always have believed the Syrian people are not at fault for the mistakes of their unsavory people inside Lebanon. But we should invesitigate the matter, shouldn't we? I think the fact that a body was found under rubble on the site of the 14 February bombing weeks after it took place shows in the least some mild incompetence regarding the Lebanese government's investigation. So, why not have an international investigation. It violates sovereignty? What sovereignty? The more time that passes whereby an internation investigation is prevented by the current Lebanese government, the more Syria looks culpable.
Right?
Please convince me otherwise.
lim.
marsden...
i already mentioned what i feel about your first comment here. it seems you already assume US/Israel are responsible. That's a very narrow view to take right off-the-bat. It should be an independent investigation, no doubt. How that would be accomplished given the reach of American and Israel in the realm of politics in the Near East is hard to say and I'm not about to address that now. But it is possible. Things about Iraq could have been done better if diplomacy was ever sincere. If we make sure diplomacy has the sincerity needed and the best intentions for the Lebanese people in mind, then it would be truly independent while looking at non-cirmumstantial evidence. I advise us all watch out for Robert Fisk's next reports. It seems something is known that hasn't been revealed officially, so we'll have to wait. And if there's somebody I trust, it's Robert Fisk.
as for your inital comment to rampurple, i don't think it's in the least bit bad to want the truth or "the truth" when it comes to the massacre on 14 Feb. Why are you again implying blame of the US and Israel. And look marsden...I'm not coming from a completely pro-US or pro-Israel background. If you read my personal blog, you'll get the drift.
next.
Alrighty Tempest,
You might have to read my other comments to understand how I feel about your comments here in full. So, I'm not redundant, you know.
As for all of the deaths you name...I agree that many assassinations in Lebanon were clearly Syria's fault. I don't feel like digging up old matters at the moment, though. Maybe when things settle down. We know the history and that's very relevant to today...but lets not take out our frustration on the SYRIAN PEOPLE. and it's interesting this may be the only assassination to reach some sort of significant level of justice because of all the intense international pressure to have a proper investigation. let's see though. personally, i have the gut feeling that lebanese intelligence had to have been intimately involved with 14 Feb. But until I see hard evidence, I nor any court can prove it.
Again, many of us have that feeling inside, but we dare not blame Syrian people. That is a contemptable stand in my eyes. The beatings and killing of Syrians inside Lebanon must be denounced completely now, and again and again...I'm even more sorry than you my friend, BUT IT DOES NOT (and I HAVE TO lay into you on this one because I believe it is such an irresponsible way to look at things (no offence...again, my opinion))IT DOES NOT make it right to say something like you did here:
"And liminal, I'm sorry to say, my friend, but enough with this 'Syrian government, and not Syrian people'. No one is blaming the Syrian people. God knows they'll be abused by their regime long after Bashar leaves Lebanon."
WHy you ask? Well, plainly, people are blaming ordinary and innocent Syrians in Lebanon. Stop with this "if you're Lebanese you're pure and righteous crap" ...I won't believe it for a second. Sorry ya3ni, I don't mean any offence. But you offended my sensibilites when you spoke in this tone. So, lets re-examine this in the future. I want to have a serious discussion about this matter at LBF. If you do not support such a discussion, then you need not participate. It is not about only Bashar, as you and I know. It is about Syrian and Lebanese intelligence agents. It is about decades of Syrian presence, a war that tore the fabric of Lebanese civil life to shreds, and about that healing process we both spoke of earlier. Don't forget the big picture. Innocent Syrian people are not to be discriminated against in any case. And you seem to imply otherwise here:
" However, let's not go into this issue right now. We can be brotherly and caring as soon as they leave our country, in the meantime, they are an occupation force."
I disagree completely. We absolutely must get into this issue if we want a real and bona fide peace in Lebanon in the future. If you want another 1975-90 then this is the exact attitude that will bring it about.
Let's not steer from the fact that we must avoid sectarian conflict at all costs. If we don't, we'll be killing the future of Lebanon. I am alarmed at the way things are shaping up. Please do not give me more reason for alarm. Let us be civil and let us discuss all topics pertaining to Lebanon's peace. Surely, you agree this is one.
Peace to Rampurple, Tempest, Marsden, and everybody...thank you for your comments. I hope we may continue this in good faith. Have a pleasant day.
:)
liminal
I didnt see any of these comments previously! I wish I did!!
Marsden I totally disagree with you... that is not what I meant with my initial comment... my comment wasnt on the feb. 14th event. I DO demand the truth, and I DO think the Syrians should leave, and the Hizbullah should give up their arms but thats irrelevant to this entire post.
My comment was on this post... that we shouldnt be quick to point fingers about the Jdeideh bombing. I believe this bombing was to shake Lebanons security. It was either to threathen the opposition, or it was to start a conflict among the Lebanese. This is why i believe we shouldnt be quick to point fingers.
Peace to Lebanon...
Super, everyone came back...
I'm glad I didn't scare anybody away.
So, I glanced over all the comments...and I have a quick one for Marsden. But first, I don't mean anything personal against you.
You are English. And you support Hizbullah...you even hope to join it.
Ok. Well, you remind me of those "Tourist adventure" people that would come from all over the West to come and join a militia in Lebanon and shoot people during the civil war.
Just wonderful.
I'll have more later maybe.
Peace to Lebanon
lim.
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Tempest ya khayyee, shoo bek? Ya3nee ma baddak enno ne7kee shwayy walla shoo? Kell wa7ad 3ando 3a2yo w enta baddak tghayyer hayda 7atta el kell y2ool ennak mesh ghaltan? Walla, a7san iza ballasht ma3mal robot.
Yeah Marsden is Dan from Angry Arab.
I am just curious as to how you think Syria benefited from Hariri's assassination though.
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