30.11.05

HA asks for full partnership in the cabinet, should we ask them the same?

Several officials from hizb Alla are asking to be be treated as full partners in the cabinet, and that the decisions to be taken inside the cabinet be taken in accordance and with the approval of all parties in it; including HA.

Tayeb if I assume that asking for full partnership is the right of HA; then is'nt asking HA that we be FULL partners with HA in the war/peace decision logical?

ya3ne should'nt ALL of us also have a saying in when and how to fire rockets at Israel?

If HA want the right to be full partners in the cabinet, we should also have the same right in being full partners in the resistance decisions.

7 Comments:

At Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:33:00 PM, Blogger francois said...

this consencus government was an error, it is weakening the state.

as was saying a doc on arte (french and german arte) la constitution libanaise favorise un etat mou.

how long lebanese can support it ?
they already paid it through one civil war and by being manipulated by the syrian through the occupation for more then the last 30 years since the cairo deal , from 69.

the government of consencus never ended the civil war
the government of concensus postponed the end of the war.


if the people vote for a majority, it is for a program to be applied and not to prostitute itself by accomodating their policy.

besides that in a democratie there is an alternance.

this government should be overthrow to make lebanon progressing and reforming itself.
this country really need it

 
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the thing with HA is a solution for the war and peace decision making has to come internally, and negotiations are ongoing within the coalition of 4 parties as well as between HA and FPM. HA will not and rightfully so just agree to give up all the progress they've accomplished in the south because the UN/US says so. That would be a tremendous injustice to 30 years of struggle and progress in south lebanon.

 
At Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:31:00 PM, Blogger francois said...

israel wouldnt have any excuse to invade lebanon again if the hezbollah was not existing now

hezbollah did a marvellous job , but the lebanese government was inexistant at that time.

however now , time has changed , we should build a country of rights and not a country of free weapon.

i hope the hezbollah will give it its weapons and transform itself to a mature political party even if it has a social action through the work of its social institutions.

why israel has invaded lebanon ? bcz there were threats to its north border by the palestinians in the 70's. here i have to add that Israeliens orthodow jews tried to implement a colony in the 80's but the israelien government dismanteled it by itself , claiming it cannot occupy that land as they always claimed that they were not there for occupation but for protection.

now lebanon has the chance to be again independant and hopefully to have again a place in the world by itself.
if there is a threat to its neighbours who ever are theses nieghbours , i dont believe the international community would allow any country to have a milicia. this includes lebanon as well.

sheba'a farms can be liberated but not by using the strenghts. they can be liberated by using by diplomatic means since we have again an independant executive power in lebanon. hezbollah had a historical past for its milicia that is gr8 but the time has changed and we have to look to the future.

 
At Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:33:00 PM, Blogger francois said...

sorry i was meaning : a country free of weapons ;)

 
At Monday, December 05, 2005 12:56:00 PM, Blogger Jamal said...

Zwixo,

don't get me wrong , i would love for the Lebanese army to do the job, it would be great, but the lebanese army is a few decades away, i'm actually for somehow integratying HA into the army as a Border Patrol squad, where the Central Government has the ultimate authority.
as for this
"the South had 24hrs electricity, water, well asphalted roads, jobs, agriculture... unfortunately under the control of an enemy nation"
Sorry Zwixo, but you are way off, you probably never went into the occupied zone while under occupation, you never had the pleasure of el jalbout, or Abdel ghani. asphalted roads? sure israeli bulldozers dug thru my grandma's legitimately owned garden which was the only thing she lived for to build a road for their tanks.

jobs? you're kidding right, your career choices were at 15 years old either carry a gun and fight under the flag of the SLA, move in to khiam and get "loved", or get the hell out of the area before you hit puberty.

Israel's goal was to make the south uninhabitable for the lebanese so they could start building settlements there. (Plenty of articles on the subject , from the 70's and 80's) That goal was defeated thru a long fight, and not just by HA, let's not give them all the credit.
Anyways back to the main point, HA is hesitant and in my opinion rightfully so to let certain people , (cough Amin cough Gemayel ), decide how to deal with the israeli threat, and want guarantees that all the progress they've made to gain independence on that piece of land isnt thrown down the jiyyeze.

also, why would lebanon lay down it's weapons without ANYTHING in return, during all war/peace negotiations in history, both sides have to make concessions for peace, why should Israel be rewarded for free?

 
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